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Barrack Obama = George Bush, Jr

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    Despite Obama's promises, rival views are scrubbed from White House


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    That's certainly discouraging, though so far he's been pretty good on the issues. The problem is that he not only has to deal with the Republicans, he has to deal with the so-called Blue Dog Democrats. I like him, but have a wait and see attitude. At least he's a Democrat, and just about any Democrat is better than just about any Republican these days.
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    Actually, Barrack Obama = Jimmy Carter.
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    Nah, Barack Obama = same as always.

    I'm not sure why so many are surprised by this. He's a career politician.
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    LMAO - barely. All he needs is his Democrats and a couple moderate Republicans and he can do what he wants. Literally. Thankfully the Republicans are starting to act like Republicans again and even if they can't stop something they can send enough of a message to slow things down or even stop it because of the message while lacking the votes.
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    Not just a run-of-the-mill career politician mind you; one of the best in recent memory. He took on both the Clintons and out did them. He's really the quintessential politician, which isn't really a compliment. I'm trying not to rush to judgement with him, but so far, more of the same seems to be the story.
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    Something else helped him defeat the Wretched Clintons but nobody dares to mention it.
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    Since when is teaching constitutional law equivalent to being a politician? How can people post with basic facts totally wrong?
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    Do you know what you are talking about? He was a politician before becoming president.

    Time for you to do a Wiki search. Go ahead, we'll wait.
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    "For twelve years, Obama served as a professor at the University of Chicago Law School teaching Constitutional Law. " I.e., he got into politics relatively late in the game, and it certainly is not his only career. Meaning, if I need to spell it out, that he is arguably not a "career politician".

    You could have done the search yourself and saved face at the same time!
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    Keep reading. What else did he do? You really need to read all the words, just not the ones that look good.
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    Address the issue at stake. He is not a career politician, unless you count it as his second career. It doesn't get much clearer than that. And it's provable.
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    Hey righties, I'm not sure if you've figured this out yet, but we aren't going to be electing Presidents that aren't "career politicians." In fact we probably won't ever elect a single one.

    Your whole shtick during the campaign was that he rose too fast and was "less experienced," so you're already contradicting yourselves by now claiming he's been at it a long time.

    So which one do you want, someone whose been in politics a long time like you now claim Obama is or someone who isn't a politician like Caroline Kennedy? You are now using directly contradictory arguments to criticize both of them.
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    FACT: He's worked more years as a non-politician than he has as a politician.

    How exactly do you define "career politician?"
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    My whole shtick was that he had no executive experience. He never ran anything: a business, a town, or state. The last few days has highlighted this vulnerability; he's doing more campaigning than leading.
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    You're still dodging the issue, what is a career politician? Are you now claiming that you'd take a CEO and run him for President? If not, at what point would that CEO be considered a career politician?

    P.S. running a town, a business and even a state has nothing to do with being president.
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    I define a career polician as anyone whose primary source of wealth was obtained via holding political positions, either directly or indirectly. That's my definition anyway.

    By the way, a person who runs a town, a business, or a state, make executive decisions on a daily basis. They hold a high amount of responsibility and must possess adequate leadership abilities. Much like the President of the U.S.

    BO has yet to show any of these quailities. Yes, he speaks well and has remarkable interpersonal skills, but where is the leadership? The guy is still campaigning.
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    #91 Jersey

    Well don't keep us waiting Harry my legs stating to tingle in anticipation of what it could be. :singing::singing:

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