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    And it's not because of race. He could be black, white, pink, polka dot. I don't care.

    However :

    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-wpxs1Re-8vx2Zk5xnYygW1W67w

    "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.

    "That's not leadership. That's not going to happen," he added.

    The Illinois senator also argued that the differences between his healthcare plan and that of Clinton "pale in comparison to the differences we have with John McCain," whose proposals would only work "if you're healthy and wealthy."

    Oh dear. Where to start ?

    Well my wife's Highlander gets 22 MPG in the city and 27 MPG on the highway according to the official numbers. Not bad. I bet Obama wants to slap $1K extra on our registration for having an SUV. Well we get better mileage than a Chevy truck or some '80s car that some poor guy drives around the city. But it's easy to pander and pick on a vehicle that's owned by people that Obama doesn't like even though they aren't the problem.

    I think this one is self evident as stupid. Of course, people who like Obama also want to use food as fuel. But let's not mention that.

    Actually, I have tried turning off my heating/cooling during the day when I'm gone and found that it uses more energy to cool down/heat up from extremes of heat and cold rather than keeping it at a constant temperature.


    OK, we have about 50M uninsured right now, google tells me. And about 12M illegals who most people don't want to get free healthcare. That leaves 38M uninsured who aren't illegal. We have about 300M people in the country. 25% are under 18 which leaves 225M. OK, 225M legal adults. 38M uninsured. So Obama say that 83% of Americans are "wealthy". (note, I subtracted all kids even though 10% are said to be uninsured which is part of the 38M so my numbers are actually skewed to hurt my argument by a little bit).

    Ha ha Obama. Gotcha.

    I want to tell him to STFU. But I think the more he talks, the less chance he has.
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    There are millions of Americans who can't stand the sight of him strutting and hopping around as though he was "King Of The World", he is a f-cking jerk kid, you aren't hearing anything from those millions, they are quietly sitting and watching this concieted punk prance around like a sappy rock star but they will make themselves heard in November.

    All the "Baracko Noise" we hear now come from his groupies and the Left Wing Politically Correct MEDIA.

    Mccain has a lot of "Lefty" in him so if he was smart he would pick a younger guy with a lot of "Righty" in him for his VP, if he does this he will win.

    Prince Obama is a "new toy", he will be a joke as President but if he does win we will get through it, America has overcome far worse things than Barack H Obama, the bad thing about it though is Terror, they are waiting and drooling because they know Obama won't continue with the security we have now, Obama and his LIBERALISM will make it possible for another "easy attack" a big one with many lost lives and the people that vote for him will have the blame laid right in their laps.

    Obama Is A Very Real Threat To The Safety Of All Americans.

    :bricks:
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    Barack Obama & elitism 101 ... here's what to expect.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/wellness_ueber_alles.html

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    What are you guys on?

    SUVs on average have worse fuel consumption than do regular cars, that's a fact. Congrats on your exception BF but it completely misses the point.

    America uses more energy, food and fuel than it needs to. This is a problem environmentally and, as he said, it sets a bad example for the rest of the world. He's not talking about sweeping reformds, he's talking about little things that can make a huge impact.

    It's not "elitist" you overly-sensitive nitwits, it's accurate. Just because you are incapable of hearing anything out of a presidential candidate that isn't, "America is the greatest, everything we do is perfect," doesn't mean that a deviation from this is "elitist." Seriously take some constructive criticism and stop being such nationalistic babies.
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    We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said. [/B]

    Obama is going to lose the precious Oprah endorsement if he takes away her Snickers stash.

    Since when do we need acceptance from other countries to keep our homes at 72 degrees?

    As long as I am paying the bills , my family is going to eat when they are hungry and stay warm in the winter. I do not need the UN's acceptance to take care of my family.

    I get a kick out of the shot at the SUV drivers.
    Maybe we should all be like Brad and Angelina and drive a prius and then
    take a private Jet to Namibai on 11,000 gallosn of Jet fuel.
    http://jalopnik.com/cars/celebritie...n-be-real-environmental-douchebags-210038.php
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    Obama :snob: could save us lots of fuel if he took the train instead of jet ...

    If I'm going to get lectured on fuel consumption I would be fine with that if that persons "carbon footprint" were less than mine. Obama's is way higher than mine ... therefore he should STFU.

    BTW: a mere 10 months ago Obama :snob: drove a 300C ... :bricks:
    BTW-BTW: That was a mere 2 months after announcing he was running
    for President ... he didn't need a car anymore did he?

    Like that super liberal :snob: John "I wear a hairpiece" Travolta ... lectures
    us about the environment while he flies planes for fun ... in fact.
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    this thread's original post is a completely distorted turd sandwich...

    utterly irrational, extrapolated and noticeably prefaced by a qualifier that actually says something along the lines of "i'm not being racist, but" ... noted, BF. ... but, ya know? your capitalist, "how dare you charge me a penny more i'm willing to sacrifice on iraq" view on the world is showing once again. ... save the outrage, and listen to what he's saying...

    and, FBN, the man travels to speak, does he not?... it stands to reason his carbon footprint would be a bit higher than the average John Q. Public who sits on his ass and lets the cable TV wash over him... what is your specific point with that angle? he shouldn't travel? or he should do so in a ford taurus?

    dunno about you, but i recognize something: what we are experiencing in western society is a distinct class war in the face of an energy crisis... we are and will be faced with energy conservation, and to a disruptive degree... whether we like it or not... the markets will not solve this one... every human being needs to think about living differently... or we, and especially our kids and grandkids, can all start imaging rolling blackouts, and three-shift workdays... nevermind car pooling, and a whole lot more "clean coal" in our air...

    on this course, if you're under 40 or so, you will experience a major darwinist change, in your lifetimes... and that includes broader war ... i'm fairly convinced of it... I can't begrudge a leader who acknowledges this scenario and recognizes the state of the world and the energy famine that is on the near horizon...

    you had better vote in a president who pays attention to the planet before one who ignores it... i'm sorry, Mr. free-market-will-solve-everything guy, but it's not all rosey ... not in the least... John McCain seems to think everything is fine, ... if we just keep it in there a little while longer and stay the course... yada yada...

    Obama may not be a perfect candidate, but he's better than the alternative ... i can tell you that...

    What the next leader of this country must decide on is whether or not he's willing to spend the $10-15 trillion it will likely cost to completely transfer from fossil fuels and onto something else... or whether he'd rather sink another $3-4 trillion on the "War on Terror" and bully the remaining crude for ourselves... "to hell with the rest of the world"... "the American way of life is not negotiable," ... you know, that kind of thinking that we see right here in this forum. ... John McCain wants "more wars," he even said the words... He's damn sure not ready to make the financial sacrifice needed in alternative energy...

    So, starting a thread that actually says "Obama - you make me sick" truly shows just how out of touch certain people are. ... terrified, as if the survival of their very savings account is somehow at risk should some "socialist black man" take over the White House. :rolleyes:

    Man, i just can not wait til this guy gets on the same stage in the TV debates with old "Maverick." It's gonna be carnage.
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    This is one of these threads that make me shake my head, no where is the polarization more obvious.. they hysteria and hyperbole of a few comments are spun into what might happen, rather than what is happening. During any campaign there are promise after promise made, however the reality is that most of this stuff is so institutionalized that the possibility of change does not exist..

    The reality is that we are consuming too much, and there is a need to look at this.. whether it be our expenditures in Iraq, our agriculture or our health care.. just read somewhere else that medicare is underfunded as well as the traditional concerns about social security.. maybe it time to move away from the make believe approach.. something is happening here.
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    Yeah he's gonna take the train everywhere, I'm sure that wouldn't negatively impact his campaign and advantage Mccain or anything:rolleyes:

    I guess because John Travolta flies a jet that means they aren't bad for the environment. I agree that someone who flies jets for recreation (and is part of a pyramid scheme) shouldn't be preaching about personal restraint, but that really has no bearing on what Obama said at all, other than to show the absurd lengths the right will go to smear Obama. Good luck with that.
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    Who says? And I don't mean BHO's opinion, I mean this honestly, who says?

    We pay for it, why shouldn't we use it? China is trying like hell to catch up with our usage. You gonna tell them to stop?
    ;)
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    I get 27 MPG on the highway. 22 in the city is good too. Instead of pandering to shock language like "SUV" let's see Obama propose a $2 a gallon gas tax. It'll hurt someone with an 80s or 90s car a lot more than my SUV because they'll get worse mileage unless it's a tiny car. But that wouldn't hit the class warfare that he's looking for.
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    Prince Barack Hussein Obama had better be very careful when he starts telling Americans who work two or three jobs and shell out most of it on Taxes (he wants higher taxes) how they should spend that money, as is said in another post "if I work and if I can afford to drive a hummer, eat lobsters for breakfast and heat my home as I see fit I will damn well do it, WE HAVE BEEN FREE TO LONG TO HAVE THIS PADDLE EARED LONG LEGGED COMMUNIST DICTATOR "MOTHER F-CKER" come along and try to drag us down to the living standards of a third world sh!t hole like Cuiba.

    If "COMRADE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA" wants the Free American People to start living under his Dictatorship and if he wants to tell the Cab Drivers of America what kind of cars to drive and what they should feed their kids then this sweet talking son of a b!tch should start with his Spiritual Advisor, Uncle Jeremiah Wright who is building a Ten Million Dollar House on a Private Golf Course, will "Comrade Obama" tell Uncle Jereimiah what to have for supper.

    Also, this "in your face" wife of his who has lived all her life being ashamed of America, "YOU WOULDN'T BE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY MICHELLE IF YOU DIDN'T LIVE IN AMERICA, YOUR A HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM BEING THE QUEEN OF THE COUNTRY YOU WERE ASHAMED OF ALL YOUR LIFE".

    F-ck You Obama, this is America, you will never tell me how to keep my children warm you f-cking communist bastard.
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    Actually, it's a thread that took something he actually said that gave a little insight on how he would govern - remember, we know next to nothing about him. The quotes are the quotes :


    Sorry if you don't like it.
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    Funny thing is, I bought my mother's '94 Mercury Grand Marquis from her when she was getting a new one. It's got 150 thousand miles, the big V8, police handling pack etc...and I was getting 20-22 with it. My neighbor has some little tuna can VW, and he was feeling sorry for me...so I mentioned my mileage to him, and it's exactly what he gets in his little tuna can 4 banger.

    So yeah, why would BHO figure he'd jump on the "SUV" wagon? It's market correction. People are already dumping the big vehicles on their own.
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    If he wants to talk about gas guzzlers or whatever, fine. But, no, he has to continue his class warfare with "SUV". And talking about the "wealthy" only have health insurance even though he's provably wrong on that.
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    Comrade Barack Hussein Obama:
    We haven't seen anything yet, if the starry eyed politically correct Obama Groupies put this socialist left wing bastard in the White House we will have another Civil War within the year.

    These statements that Comrade Barack has just made about about FREE AMERICANS turning their heat down for him will haunt him all summer and could very well be his downfall, we know nothing about this creep or his wife and I hope Mccain and his gang will have the balls to go after him and turn the Obama/Michelle closet inside out.
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    That's progress I suppose.

    It's sort of strange that the quote only seems to be on right-wing blogs, and I can't find the context in which it was said or what was replaced by the ellipses. Nonetheless, my guess is that he's saying we can't do whatever we damn please and expect the Saudis to increase oil production to meet our needs. Also, SUV is simply the modern term for gas guzzler, even though it can be imprecise.

    If you object to the use of hyperbole in political speeches, then you'll never find a candidate to vote for. Do you think that when McCain said being in Iraq for 100 more years would be "fine with him," we should not think about the bigger point he's trying to make? That's fine with me if you want to approach politics that way. How about this quote by McCain, ""I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated." Or this one, "I think I'd just commit suicide." --in October 2006, on the prospects of the Democrats taking back the Senate in the November election. Do you really want a suicidal president?
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    Well Chris Mathews isn't going to talk about it is he ?

    Maybe he needs to get his sh!t together. However I think it's more evil than that, it's class warfare because only the "rich" have SUVs and he doesn't want Joe with a '91 Chevy to know Obama is coming after him too. More class warfare on the health insurance quote.

    :bricks:
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    I agree on these points.

    Problem is, Obama's not about to say the word "tax" from now until November. The Dem's will have to shake the perception that they are in favor of more taxes as opposed to the Republicans. Taxes are a buzz word in this election and will continue to be as long as the economy limps along. When (and if) he becomes president, Obama should impose a gas tax and give relief to truckers on deisel.

    I can't believe how many Lexus Liberals I see on the Pike at the Newton tolls (they're easy to spot) driving alone. There's thousands of cars every day and they ALL HAVE ONE PASSENGER! Until people decide how serious they want to be regarding commuting and public transportation, they need to STFU about SUV's and hybrid cars.

    I wonder whether this driving alone thing is a result of our need for personal time to be alone and think. Our lives are so complicated and our schedules have become so packed with crap and multiple layers of communication that maybe we need to commute alone in the car with the cell phone shut off and the music on. But then again , seems everyone,s on the cell while they're driving...I dunno.
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    Hey, leave Travolta alone. He doesn't drive an SUV. Atleast I don't see one in this picture of his home. :D

    Do you?

    John Travolta's home/airport.
    [​IMG]
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    He must be out in his 'copter...the pad's empty.

    Jeeziz, it must be tough trying to sneak in after you're out drinking with the guys at the strip joint.
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    Yes, there is class warfare as the wealthy do everything that can to extract as much from our COMMON economy as they can, even if it's at the expense of the poor and middle class. Until the wealthy stop waging that class war, there will naturally be a response. As I've said before I oppose the socialist tax system that you seem to favor. Taxes should be subject to market pressures, especially given the global mobility of the wealthy. Raise taxes for the rich, lower them for everyone else, until it starts to backfire and then make necessary changes. In other words, run the government like a business, and don't give in to the softies who want the government to protect them from natural market forces. In all truth, BF, given your view that business owners should have the right to discriminate, it's hard to see why you would want anything but market forces to regulate our economy, including taxes.
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    I'm a bit perplexed by your post. If people want to drive alone, what business is it of yours? Also, why should the government subsidize truckers? Does the government subsidize my line of work?

    Sorry to say, but from the quotes provided, Obama's words sound elitist. People in this country, at least not your average American, don't want to be told how to live, nor do they want to be held to a foreignors standards. This sounds like the "clinging" line he tossed out there last month. He's going to scare away more people than he attracts if he consistently speaks this way. People don't want a "holier than thou" dreamer in the highest seat. They want someone that has been dragged through the mud. Obama sounds like that young kid who hasn't quite grasped reality.
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    :rofl:

    It's funny how people support Amnesty, which is a direct hammer to the middle class, yet try to blame the rich for it's costs. It's even funnier how people talk about "fear" politics, then go out and use class warfare as a campaign tool. The very people who propose gas hikes, talk class warfare. Afterall, the middle class doesn't use gas. Rich people are the ones who will feel a $2 hike at the pump, and all the corresponding costs that comply, right? Increases in sales taxes, alchohol taxes, cigarette taxes, fees, fines, tolls, etc. are all things that hurt the rich :rolleyes:. When such budrens are imposed upon a society, they hurt the people who earn less, and not those that earn more. Yet, the people will still point a finger at the rich, for all that's wrong. Afterall, they are the one's that have grown government, and increased the cost of living for the middle, and lower classes.
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    No one's pointing the finger at the rich. We are simply trying to address a problem. The problem is that the government needs to raise lots of money. You think the government should cut back so it doesn't to raise so much money. I disagree with that. I favor government programs, so it needs more money.

    I favor Amnesty (because I see it as a viable solution to a real problem), so we need more money. The more money we sink in, the better the job. For instance, let's hire enough teachers to ensure that immigrants become fluent in English, not just learn enough to get by. If we are going to have an Amnesty, let's do it the right way, but our political system will likely force a compromise that sucks from both our points of view. But I digress....

    How should the government get more money? Raise taxes, and let the market decide how much to raise taxes and for whom to raise taxes. There are several metrics by which to monitor this: elections, stock market indexes, other economic indexes, and government revenues, to name a few. To me, that's the logic of capitalism.
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    It wasn't very clear, was it?

    I never stated that the Government should prevent people from driving alone. My point was that so-called "environmentalists" who talk a lot and don't do anything should STFU when they're driving the Porche Cayenne or even their Prius from Dover to Boston alone. Americans have a love affair with their cars, and are unwilling to share their car or give it up, like they would a mate.

    About the "subsidy" for the drivers...I think there should be a lag time or a scheduled increase on the tax on deisel. These people are getting killed because they are working under contract that don't allow for rapid increases in fuel costs. The government can't up the tax on them while the president or whoever makes decisions that directly influence the price of fuel. There is also the trickle down effect on the economy. In my business, I don't sign any contract that is so long out that I can't absorb the cost of material increases. Truckers don't alsays have this luxury. And now Mexican drivers can cross the border with their Mexican fuel and have an unfair advantage over US truckers. That was a direct result of the NAFTA treaty.
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    Government "income" is at record highs. As many people know, it's not an income problem it's a spending problem.
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    There might be a spending problem, but obviously that depends on what you think the government should spend money on. And, in the end, we have the age old problem that Larry Craig want new weapons and Ted Kennedy wants more welfare, so they compromise and give each other 75% of what they wanted, which costs us 150% of what they individually request. I don't see a way around that in a democracy. Now, as far as waste and fraud go, I honestly think that's something we're all for fighting.

    At any rate, even if spending was cut, I would favor using the free market to set tax policy. The rich would be okay with it as long as the economy remained profitable enough for them.
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    America has worked very hard at "being free" many many Americans have died since this country was born to Preserve that Freedom.

    America will not sit by and allow a Left Wing Progressive Socialist like Obama tell them how to live their private lives but if we are not careful people like Obama can destroy much of the freedom we now have and the first people to suffer that loss are the people who now support him, how long do you think an "Obama Dictatorship" would put up with Sean Penn "Cindy Sheehan" or The NY Times?

    Aren't any of you "Obama People" curious about him, don't you want to know more about him, you should.

    :bricks:
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    Harry, that's a pretty paranoid post. If you've read any of Obama's writings or read about his life, you'll realize that he not some sort of a demogague who wants to turn our country into some sort of dictatorship. In fact, it's ludicrous to think that. While there are some young people who seem to worship him, generally his supporters are objective and know that none of his positions are particularly liberal and he has not laid out a bold agenda in any way. But, he's attracting so much interest because he's probably the greatest orator alive and by virtue of his race he's making history. What do you know about him that I apparently don't?

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