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Barack Obama could not fulfill the Oath of the President of the United States

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  1. Fogbuster

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    The oath of office for the President of the United States says:

    "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."
    Oath of Office for President of the United States

    Barack Obama, however, says that the US Constitution is "fundamentally flawed":

    "And in that sense, I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries on until this day, and that the Framers had that same blind spot. I don’t think the two views are contradictory, to say that it was a remarkable political document that paved the way for where we are now, and to say that it also reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day."
    Obama: U.S. Constitution Reflects the Fundamental Flaw of this Country that Continues to this Day Crystal Clear Conservative
    LiveLeak.com - OBAMA SAYS US CONSTITUTION DEEP FLAW
    Obama rips U.S. Constitution

    and thus, he could never be trusted to fulfill the oath of the office of President, simply because Obama believes the Constitution is faulty as it is.


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    #75 Jersey

    No prob. We're just getting through year 8 of an Administration where the Veep STILL contends he is not part of the Executive Branch!

    Dig deeper!
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    This very much IS a problem for Barack Hussein Obama, the first "clean, articulate African-American" (Joe Biden's words, not mine) to seek the highest office in the land.

    So little is known about Obama, a man who keeps his history a closely guarded secret, a man who leaks out tiny little dribs and drabs about himself, just enough to say: "Hey, I already went over that. Let's move on."

    But people are NOT moving on. Obama has a very unsavory past: from being raised in the Islamic State of Indonesia to attending a racist, anti-American church in Chicago for 20 years ("Jeremiah Wright is like an uncle to me." -- BO), to his long-time association with William Ayers and other unrepentant domestic terrorists, to Obama's university tutor, Saul Alinsky, a HARD-CORE Marxist, even a communist. So many, many hidden facts about Obama that he has never explained because he hopes people will just let it slide because he is the "first African-American" presidential candidate.

    And, he's not even that: Jesse Jackson ran; Alan Keyes has run, and some wanted Frederick Douglass to run 130 years ago.

    Obama is just hoping you will forget all that, while he spins another speech full of platitudes and half-truths, sometimes downright lies.


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    "clean articulate african american" Joe Biden said it but anybody that quote's it is Racist and should be crucified.......(the old double standard)
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    Excuse me, but do you support the Defense of Marriage Act? If you do, or any other amendment that we've had to the constitution, then you ALSO think the constitution flawed.

    there is so much hypocrisy coming from the Right its nauseating.
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    Caint do that no more. Crucifixion is not allowed this time. No matter if they try, they cannot get away with it.

    "The Whole World is Watching" -- 1968, Chicago Dem Convention


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    This is of course an absurd point, and Fog's reasoning is Constitutionally flawed. Almost every president has acknolwedged flaws in the Constitution, whether those flaws involves gun rights, abortion rights, marriage rights, discrimination, taxes, slavery, etc. In this country, we have what's called Freedom of Speech where we can openly and honestly point to and acknowledge flaws in the Constitution. Those flaws are corrected by Amendments or by the Supreme Court, though in the case of Bush they were sometimes corrected by signing statements, something Obama has promised not to use in the corrupt way Bush did.
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    Well President Bush lied about upholding the constitution... the that glass ceilin ghas already been shattered...
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    The Defense of Marriage Act protects the legal integrity of the family. Anybody who does not want that does not understand the history of America and how America grew to be a great nation, the greatest in history, in fact.

    What Obama is saying is that the Constitution does not have a provision for what amounts to reparations, payments to an entire race of people due to past mistakes. Such an idea would completely bankrupt the country; it would create an entire class of people, based upon race, which would be getting a ton of money while doing nothing.... not a recipe for a healthy society. It is punitive in nature and would destroy the economy.


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    Uh-Uh, Fog, you dont get away with that. It doesnt matter the reasons WHY you want the Defense of Marraige Act, it is an amendment to our constitution. Therefore, you believe there is a flaw in our constitution.

    dont feel bad, we have been making amendments since the beginning, so you are in good company with all the other people who have called America home.

    As far what Obama SAID, you are putting things in Obama's mouth he never said. Therefore, you are bearing false witness again. Give us the quotes where Obama SAID he wants to:
    "create an entire class of people, based upon race, which would be getting a ton of money while doing nothing"

    He didnt say that any more than he follows the same policies as Karl Marx, another LIE, spread by people who want to win an election more than they want to follow the Laws of God, which command that we dont lie and that we dont bear false witness. If people spread rumors and lies in your church the way so many so-called God fearing people are doing during this campaign I dont think that would be such a good thing now, do you?
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    #95 Jersey

    Actually no. When writing the Constitution, the framers wanted to articulate that certain rights would be protected to avoid any ambiguity. That is why there is a Bill of Rights ( first 10 amendments) which expressly states that certain rights are to be protected, assembly, speech, religion, right to bear arms, double jeopardy. some of the framers thought that if it was not written, there could be a debate about the original intent. I wouldn't call it a flaw when you amend the constitution but a recognition that society's accepted norms change (e.g. women's right to vote) and it is a protection of those rights.
    As the United States evolved, they realized that a long time from election to inauguration worked well in the days of the 1800s but wasn't practical in 20th century America so an amendment moved the date from March 4th to January 20th. Is that a flaw or a means of improving the Constitution?
    Just my $0.02,
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    Saul Alinsky, William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, plus many many more, and his own self-confessed affinity for hard left-wing teachers, professors, and role models --- none of these are lies. These are documented fact. Obama runs from them all, but he cannot. These are what people are thinking about when they are considering where to place their mark on the ballot.

    As time goes by the Democrat responsibility for the current economic catastrophe is going to be revealed more and more and more. The Pelosi/Reid/team Obama troika is in for some very hard times.

    These are facts, the truth.

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    The truth according to Fogbuster.

    let me ask you a serious question.

    If 50% of the country votes for Barack Obama are 50% of Americans marxists and are they also Godless?
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    People have been lied to by Obama from day one. He has hidden his real agenda, he wants to turn America into a socialist state. It is all very clear now. More and more is coming out now. People are finding out more each minute.


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    "Fogic". I like that word.

    I took all sorts of vows to love, honor, and cherish my wife. She is also flawed. For one thing, she will grow old and die. That's okay, I will too.

    Fortunately, our standards for marriage aren't as high as the standards of our usual crowd for a Democratic presidential candidate.

    Think 2012 guys.

    PFnV
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    Fog, no matter how many times you take down my reputation, that doesn't make you right...

    In my reputation, he said "Bush did not lie, stop making false aqusations" ... I didn't say Bush lied, so Fog just lied about me lying...

    what i did say was Bush did not uphold the constitution, well going to war without a declaration of war from congress is AGAINST the constitution. Spying on Americans, is AGAINST the constitution.

    BUSH does not defend and protect and uphold the constitution... Now Fog, I would appreciate you restoring my reputation that you unjustly marked.
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    Yeah, and Dubya's been so good to the Constitution.

    Dubya: "The Constawhatnow?"
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    Bush has upheld the Constitution far more than Obama ever would. Obama wants to impose reparations on all working people in America so those who do not want to work will get all the free money they want.

    The Constitution guarantees the right to pursue happiness; it does NOT guarantee that every one will find happiness; each person has their own responsibility to work for that.



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    How can you tell who gives you rep points? I thought people just did hit and runs. There are a few people I would like to respond to.
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    Did he SAY that? No he did not. Bearing False Witness does not appear to be a commandment Fog has to follow.

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