Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by PonyExpress, Apr 23, 2008.
I cant wait till the Pats thrash em week 2....
We should trade up to #5 - that wouldn't cost too much - then trade down for more for someone wanting Ryan. Of course I'm kidding but . . .
However - all this doesn't necessarily help the Jets. Sure, if they trade down to 8 with Baltimore then it stops us from trading the pick for Ryan. However it also means that one player we wouldn't draft is gone and one more player we might want drops down to #7. What if we want Gholston (or Long or whoever) and he and Ryan are both there at #6 ? They can trade us out of Ryan but it moves another player down.
I find this incredibly amusing. That said it's probably smart on the Jets part.
Exactly right. That's another decision they will have to make if the draft breaks right for us, which could (if the Rams take Dorsey) depend on whether the Chiefs take a pass rusher.
Talk aboout stupid on the Jets part if it's true. Why should they care if the Pats cash in? Cashing in is a matter of perception anyways. We thought Dallas got the best deal with the brady quinn move but the pats have #7 now.
It's smart to be aware of all the possibilities. If they can get 13 and 43 for example, or a 3rd from the Ravens (the Jets have no 3 right now) and they'd rather do that then get Long or Gholston or something, maybe they love Groves or Avril or somebody, then why not explore those options?
But if Gholston OR C Long is on the board, and the Jets want to trade down, ensuring one of those is a Pat, by all means, go ahead.
What's funny is that the Jets actually think they're competing against the Pats. Talk about delusions of grandeur. They need to focus on the Dolphins. This obsession with the Pats, whose boots they aren't fit to lick, smacks of mental imbalance.
Of Course the Jest are obsessed with us, I mean heaven forbid they use every ounce of their mental energy to make their own football team as good as possible. That's gotta be secondary at this point, right, does'nt it , I mean I think so.......
Why do you think Bill walked away from the HC job there and advised Eric to follow his mentor's lead? Eric had too much ego to take that heartfelt advice though, and that combined with Tangini's ego and Woody's pre existing obcession with everything NE = WTF are we doing. This is the JETS karma. They remain at least 2-3 years away from competing for the division, and that's only if they locate a functional QB at some point along the way. So what do they do - load up on expensive veteran FA's to position them to win enough games to save their jobs and face, and then obcess about making moves to thwart us instead of worrying about rebuilding their team.''
I love it.
I'm sure they have every possible scenario mapped out. I would hope they are exaggerating the Pats obsession.
And if this latest stuff from Rotoworld is true, Tannenbaum should start getting nervous after seeing this:
"Citing "a reliable league source," SI.com reports that Atlanta will likely pass on Matt Ryan at No. 3 overall even if Glenn Dorsey is off the board.
If that's really their plan, the Falcons could try hard to move down after Dorsey goes to St. Louis (or New Orleans) or take USC DT Sedrick Ellis."
Atlanta grabbing CLong/Gholston or Ellis will send shockwaves through the Jet warroom and panic, the Rat will start choking up those last 10 chocolate chip cookies he took down right after dinner, that fat bast... because Matty will drop right down to us like a patio block.
It's highly doubtful that the falcons would draft a d end.
Whether it's Atl or a trade down with someone else, the highest values are CLong/Gholston and DMac at 3, so one of them will go in that slot. And it's time for Fat Eric to start getting nervous.
I absolutely love this! Not that I don't want to trade down and get more picks, but because the Jets trading down to make sure we can't will be a major bungle on their parts.
Imagine them trading their pick to Baltimore for example. They get the number eight pick, which they will have to pay top ten money anyway, and thanks to a weak top end of this draft will probably pan out as a late first round talent. Then get a later round pick, which they will of course screw up.
Through this series of events, McFadden drops to us, and we still trade out and pick up extra picks!
Then I will wait with baited breath, until the day comes that I get to see Matt Ryan and the Ravens outgun (laughing) Kellen Clemens and the Jets, to eliminate the Jets from wildcard contention
Of course this is just one team they could trade with, and one scenerio, but either way, worrying about what we are going to do and not what they could do to improve their team is textbook Jets.
I suspect this only takes 5 years to show up on one of NFL Networks "Top Ten Worst" episodes
u know what would REALLY be funny? if the Jets GIVE baltimore a 3rd rounder, to move up to 6, to draft Ryan, so he doesnt fall to NE
u know what would be even funnier? the above scenario, but baltimore doesnt take ryan
Your 2 points would be the icing on the cake if it fell that way :rocker:
After much pondering....shouldn't the Jets be focusing on who they should draft? In addition, if they trade out so Baltimore can take Ryan, doesn't that give the Patriots one less team in the way so they can grab their guy (assuming there is a guy).
I was thinking the same thing.
Oh BB, you are the master of headgames. If the Jets are worried about Ryan and the possibility of us trading out, theyre being stupid. If C. Long is there we take him and are happy, if Ellis or McFadden are there we trad eout and get the "bounty" of added picks. There are three or four guys who, if theyre there, we'd have anxious trading partners for.
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