Welcome to PatsFans.com

Back to the Future: Week 4

Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by pats1, Sep 27, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. pats1

    pats1 Moderator PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 28, 2005
    Messages:
    13,261
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Before we get too excited about this Week 3 win, let's not forget that Week 4 starts now. And just as quickly as we wanted to put the Jets debacle behind us, Sunday very well could be deja vu. Instead of Sanchez, there's Flacco. Instead of Jones and Washington, there's Rice and McGahee. But otherwise, we're talking about two fairly similar teams here. And oh yeah: Ed Reed.

    At least this one's at home.
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2009
  2. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,431
    Likes Received:
    61
    Ratings:
    +81 / 1 / -2

    My Jersey:

    #24 Jersey
    I'm still not quite sold on that Baltimore defense. I wasn't really impressed with it when I watch Kansas City and San Diego play them. Rivers TORCHED it. If this offense blends the run and pass like it did today to take some of that pressure off Brady, and if Brady progresses even more, we shouldn't have a problem taking the Ravens. Two dead birds, two weeks in a row.
  3. patriot lifer

    patriot lifer Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    1,831
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    we'll be needing that Welker fella'
  4. jcdavey

    jcdavey Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,669
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    just watch the chargers ravens game, you should be able to pass on baltimore's secondary all day long , plus you've got a better running game, and probably a better defense

    i'll be picking NE this coming week (even though the ravens O is looking pretty legit)
  5. jbb9s

    jbb9s Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2006
    Messages:
    2,159
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ratings:
    +3 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    This is a preview of the AFCCG. Unfortunately, I think that game will be in Baltimore.

    Also all the out-of-staters will also start the season 4 for 4 in terms of national games....bar savings way way down this year.
  6. owl001

    owl001 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Keep telling yourself this. 14 of the KC points were from freaky plays...otherwise it was a 38-10 game, with still a dominating performance by their D. The SD game showed some weakness in the secondary, but Phillip Rivers had to play out of his mind just to "almost win" in their house. That was not a small accomplishment to fly clear across the country and come out with a gutsy win.

    They are now a very balanced, powerful, and dangerous team both sides of the ball.

    But as it always is, Any Given Sunday...we shall see.
  7. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2009
    Messages:
    9,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Rivers torched them but still lost (actually their D lost the game for them, being depleted). However, I think BB will still be picking some things up from that game. One thing I think he will key on is in man coverage, their corners are easily exposed.

    Question is, do we go no-huddle like we did in '07 to prevent them from going dime and quarter?

    Only problem with that now is their base D is the most effective, not their nickel and extra DB packages (3.6 YPPA vs. 4.3 YPPA)

    Ironically they are also playing a bit of vanilla D, going consistent with four men rush.
  8. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2009
    Messages:
    9,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Are we saying hello to our first Ravens fan? The Falcons fans were nice. Hope you birdies are alike. :D
  9. patsfan-1982

    patsfan-1982 Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2007
    Messages:
    4,016
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    i think this is the game we see the brady to moss deep ball

    the ravens will blitz just as much if not more then the jets did but the ravens dont have a Darrelle Revis type corner

    and if this D let the falcons put up only 10 points

    im not worried about the ravens O
  10. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,431
    Likes Received:
    61
    Ratings:
    +81 / 1 / -2

    My Jersey:

    #24 Jersey
    Don't count on it with Ed Reed likely to be patrolling that area. Belichick has a man crush on Reed and respects the hell out of him. I'm sure he'll be building the offensive gameplan away from Reed... not directly to him.
  11. alvinnf

    alvinnf Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Messages:
    3,296
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    This is not going to be a pretty week. If they win it will have to be ugly. Ngata is going to be a handfull everything they do starts with him. There's a reason Kelly Gregg makes as many plays as he does. That reason is Ngata. We will get a good chance to see if this staff learned anything from the Jets game. Balt. would be foolish to ditch that plan.
  12. jcdavey

    jcdavey Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,669
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    only reason sd lost to baltimore was the red zone offense of sd's sucks right now

    if you guys are good in the red zone (better than sd) you'll be fine
  13. SVN

    SVN Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2005
    Messages:
    22,513
    Likes Received:
    13
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    i think their running game without wilfork will be a big concren.
  14. MrBigglesWorth

    MrBigglesWorth Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    8,338
    Likes Received:
    16
    Ratings:
    +16 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    the key is when will the pats develop a good strategy to deal wth constant pressure from an opposing defense
  15. Patspsycho

    Patspsycho Rookie

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2009
    Messages:
    9,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    It wasn't today. Pryor did a great job IMO.
  16. QB12

    QB12 Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -1

    My Jersey:

    Ryan probably thought the quarters were 9, rather than 15 minutes. He just didn't have the ball much, especially in the second half. When the Pats D shortens the game like that, the opposing offense becomes more 1-dimensional. Flacco is good, but he's no Brady or Manning. And especially with his sub-par receiving corps, he can't beat us with the game in his hands. We win 27-20.

    QB12
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2009
  17. italia44

    italia44 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2006
    Messages:
    3,287
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    The "sub-par" Derrick Mason can play for my team,anyday...........BB says so,too.
  18. mayoclinic

    mayoclinic PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    12,376
    Likes Received:
    6
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Glad to hear someone else lauding Ngata. I think he's the best player on their defense - certainly the one I would build my D around if I had my choice.

    Your statement about the Jets game is right on. Baltimore has Atlanta's balanced offense and the Jet's defense. If we don't execute better and show more variety on offense (not to mention doing a better job of handling the pass rush) then we deserve to lose. We should expect all opposing teams to bring the pressure until we prove we can solve it. Baltimore is one of the few teams capable of doing that effectively.

    I think we win this game, but we'd better show more of the offensive creativity and balance that we displayed today than what we showed last week against the Jets. And a healthy Welker would definitely help.
  19. ALP

    ALP Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2007
    Messages:
    7,401
    Likes Received:
    7
    Ratings:
    +7 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    i dont see baltimore as that much of a challenge...

    their defense for any sake is very similar to the jets, except Balt corners are weaker, and safeties stronger, and for jets are vice verca

    and i dont c as pathetic of a performance as against the jets by our recievers, our o line, our rb's, our coaches, or our QB....

    and a better red zone offense....well put up high 20's

    now their offense....similar to jets, except rb's not as quick, and wr's better, TE not as good, O-line not as good

    guyton would aslo not be thrown into a game and position midway through a game....i say they dont get more than 20....their strenghts play right into ours (slower, more powerful backs)

    and its at home, and its first time flacco sees a BB defense (with a 3-9 track record, or something like it)
  20. sbpatfan

    sbpatfan Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2008
    Messages:
    1,930
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Am I the only one that things Baltimore is overrated? I'm not saying they are a bad team, but they've only played the Chiefs, Chargers, and Browns..
  21. PatsFanSince74

    PatsFanSince74 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2005
    Messages:
    9,806
    Likes Received:
    8
    Ratings:
    +12 / 0 / -1

    My Jersey:

    Hint: opposition posters (and since your first post comes in defense of the Ravens in, by coincidence, the week we're playing them, I kind of think you might be one) who get respect here tend to identify themselves as such, demonstrate real knowledge of the game and don't start their first post with sarcasm. this board has a long history of welcoming intelligent and polite posts from opponents' fans and of ignoring most others. it's up to you where you fall.
  22. QB12

    QB12 Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -1

    My Jersey:

    You mean the Mason they tried to sign in '04? or was it '05 or '06?

    How many Pro Bowls (if any) has he been named to?

    One serviceable receiver does not change my assessment that "the receiving corps" is sub-par.

    QB12
  23. upstater1

    upstater1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2005
    Messages:
    12,926
    Likes Received:
    9
    Ratings:
    +9 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Any Given Sunday is a phrase you should not apply to the Patriots.
  24. TeamPats

    TeamPats Rookie

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2004
    Messages:
    438
    Likes Received:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Just a fun fact for all, this is the 4th straight week the Patriots are playing an undefeated foe. Now that is obviously counting Buffalo at 0-0 which is slightly ludicrous, but it's more to emphasize the difficulty in gameplanning for a team without having seen game film of your opponent that shows vulnerability which does include Buffalo.
  25. BradyManny

    BradyManny Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2006
    Messages:
    9,679
    Likes Received:
    8
    Ratings:
    +8 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    The Ravens are no doubt a better version of the Jets - but I'm feeling confident after yesterday's win. All the offense has to do is start converting some of these red zone trips. They've moved the ball at will pretty much all season save for the 2nd half of the Jets game.

    I wonder if we'll see more of the 2 TE sets we saw yesterday - I hope so, I like it. Especially with Wes injured.
  26. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,431
    Likes Received:
    61
    Ratings:
    +81 / 1 / -2

    My Jersey:

    #24 Jersey
    Hopefully, it'll be the second straight week we send an undefeated foe to it's first loss. This is actually fun because now the team no longer has the pressure to go undefeated. :)
  27. Baltimorefan06

    Baltimorefan06 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2009
    Messages:
    114
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    I joined the board just to reply to this post, but I'll honestly try to be as objective as possible.

    The Jets are basically a cheap version of the Ravens as we out-class them at nearly every single position. If you downgraded Baltimore position-by-position because of youth/inexperience/less talent, then you'd have New York. That sounds arrogant, but I think it's completely true.

    The Jets use the Ravens schemes, but have inferior players are every position minus CBs.
    I don't think a single person who actually know the first thing about either team would say that the Jets have a better O-line or RBs. . .

    Our wide receivers are probably better, but only marginally, and otherwise we're better than the Jets at every position on offense other than TE. I could certainly make an argument for Heap putting up better numbers than Keller this year, but I'll give you Dustin over Todd.

    Every single week last week, we had to hear about how it would be Flacco's first game, or his first road game, or his first game against a divisional opponent, or his first game in the playoffs, or his first AFC Championship Game.

    Can we just establish that Joe is able to adjust pretty well?
  28. KontradictioN

    KontradictioN Do you even lift? PatsFans.com Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    25,431
    Likes Received:
    61
    Ratings:
    +81 / 1 / -2

    My Jersey:

    #24 Jersey
    I'd say that the Jets and Ravens have about the same O-Line in terms of quality starters. Their RBs are better than your guys' though. And I say this as someone that despises the Jets. They have a physical guy that can pound the football in Jones and a home run threat in Leon Washington who can also run between the tackles. The WR position is a wash. You can flip a coin on that one.
  29. PatsSox363804

    PatsSox363804 Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2006
    Messages:
    2,634
    Likes Received:
    2
    Ratings:
    +2 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    This will not be an easy game which is why it was so crucial to not only play well yesterdat, but to win. That said, the Jets debacle could prove to be somewhat of a "good" thing because you know the offense, Brady in particular, want redemption and the Ravens running much the same defense as the Jets are a good place to start.

    Unlike the Jets game, I expect a much more balanced attack. I think we see a game plan much like yesterdays of a consistent running game and long sustained drives, if possible, to keep our defense fresh and limit their chances. A more accurate offense and we're 3-0, and yesterday we would have won like 38-10, we're almost there, and hopefully make more strides against a team who if we are to do what we all hope to do this year, we'll probably see again in January.
  30. mars

    mars Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2009
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    My Jersey:

    Hi,

    It will be a painful week for me as i love both these teams. And i don't want either one to loose.

    Back in 2007 these two teams produced a great game. Hopefully we will get another such game.

    At least this game will be nationally aired..I live in DC area and it's a pain to not to get Ravens/Pats game every week..
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2009
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page