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Award winning economist says America has bankrupted itself with the Iraq war

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    No, please tell me this can't be true? We must just be in a slowdown?
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    Entitlements will kill us, not Iraq.
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    Wrong. Trillions of dollars, not billions but T r i l l i o n s in just five years since 2003. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands dead and injured and the millions left homeless.

    Iraq is the main reason our nation is in the deep crap that it is in, inculding the cost of oil and gasoline.

    OPEC has only one weapon with which to fight the hated Americans, Oil.
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    And BTW John McCain is one of the biggest entitlement givers in the senate. He just hides it better.
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    They always throw out numbers and I'm convinced they're including the salaries of the military which would be paid in wartime or not. I'd like to see a non partisan number of the actual expense over and above what would be spend anyway in peace time.
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    Now where the hell will Prince Paddle Ears get the money for his Dafurian War, jesus this is terrible, I don't know what to do.

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    Wes I don't have a chance right now to watch a 20min video, could you provide a little summary of the main point until we get a chance to see the whole thing?

    Not having seen it, and just looking at the title, I find that hard to believe. The United States budget for 2007 was $2.8 trillion. From what I could find (actually left wing sources, one posted below) the total spent on Iraq in 2007 was $133 billion.

    $133/$2800 = 4.75%, so the US spent only about 5% of its budget directly on Iraq last year. How can this small a figure account for the Iraq war bankrupting the US? Compare that with social security, at $586 billion or Medicare at $394 billion, at about 20% and 13.5%, respectively. Defense spending as a whole takes up a big chunk of the budget, with $549 billion or about 19%, but that money would be spent on defense if Iraq was going on or not. Maybe the answer is in the video, apologies if it is.

    http://zfacts.com/p/447.html
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    Harry, you are grasping at straws. Nothing like that will happen. Stop buying into the lies. You are not that stupid.
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    The total cost I found since 2003 is about $450 billion, not in the trillions. Here's what I found by year for Iraq funding:

    FY $ Billion
    2003 53.0
    2004 75.9
    2005 85.5
    2006 102.0
    2007 133.6
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    You are a liar, NEM, and you know it.
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    Did you serve on the front in Iraq?
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    What's that got to do with anything?
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    DID I ask YOU POX?..........NO
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    I wasn't answering, I was asking. The little curly thing at the end of my sentence should've tipped you off.
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    What business is it of your's what I ask someone else? POX
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    Well, things turned pretty ugly in this thread pretty fast!

    One word about MosiT, no matter who he may be he has been courteous in his posts, I see no reason to continue antagonizing him. If the mods think there is a problem they will take care of it, if not, why don't we just leave well enough alone and let Mosi continue posting in peace. I mean from what I've seen he's been a model poster since joining, so why get all wound up about a potential problem if there is none?
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    Since you posted it on a discussion board rather than send it via PM, I assumed it was a public conversation. In the future, if you wish to have a private conversation, might I suggest not writing it on a public discussion board?

    :D
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    IIRC PFIEL did a stint in Iraq. His numbers make more sense, Mostof the 'cost' of the war were expenses we were already going to incur maintaining our military.
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