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    It's irrelevant, it's a business decision. We all have choices about who our ISP is - for some this will make AT&T more attractive, for others less. Their business, their choice.
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    Agreed but It is impossible for the free market to work when consumers are not free.

    Search results might be biaised .
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    How are consumers not free ? Unless a law is passed requiring filters there will always be a company (or many) who make the business decision not to.
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    They will bring throu their pipes what they want ,not what you want.
    Content filtering opens the door to new tiers of service:

    1) filtered service $50/mo. 2) Unfiltered service add $50/mo.
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    Again, it's a non issue to me as I have several potential ISPs (as do most) and if I don't like one I can change to another. It's their business to run.
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    Sure , me too , i do have differents options but...i heard Nyc has only one major player, i think att has monopoly in different areas ( midwest,not sure?)
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    When AT&T does this they will lose their monopoly...garaunteed.
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    typical unaccountable capitalist rhetoric... and when all ISPs start doing it, what will your response be then?

    something along the lines of:

    "go out and start your OWN company"
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    I realize you'll say "this is the start, where will it go" but the article does say : "could soon start sniffing your digital packets, looking for material that infringes on someone’s copyright".

    Whether some of the stuff should be illegal to download is another issue but arguing that companies shouldn't look for illegal activities being conducted on their hardware/software is a difficult argument.
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    and how do they prove where, or even IF, it was downloaded? the existance of an MP3 file on my computer doesn't mean i got it from old napster or KaZaA or anywhere "illegal" ...
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    I have no idea how they determine legality. That's a technical issue that they have to figure out. I just said it's a difficult argument that they shouldn't look for illegal activity - I didn't say I, or they, know how to do it.
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    again i ask, in response to your "it's a business decision" stance:

    when they all start doing it, what will you tell the consumer who disagrees his freedoms remain in place?
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    I'm sure your cache is very telling
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    ok, now, don't be a complete coward and run from this direct challenge, mmm-kay, tough guy?

    wtf does that mean? are you insinuating i have illegal content on my computer? what an unaccountable PoS comment... clown...
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    You're arguing for the freedom to partake in illegal activities. Again, a difficult position to take.
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    NOTHING pisses me off worse than when a righty misrepresents my argument... you do it a lot...

    i'm not arguing for that anywhere but in your own curious mind... don't be so utterly cliche and suggest this is all about copyright material and illegal smut... this is about much, MUCH more regarding freedom of speech and information, just like the Patriot Act you support, and probably never read...

    it's the same kinds of people who are all for pushing to squash Net Neutrality... it's a partisan issue, and Rethugs are all in line to privatize and monitor the internet...
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    PC wants the freedom to engage in illegal activites and download all the porn in the world, which is all well and good, but he doesn't want you to have the freedom to eat certain foods you may want to if they are bad for you... No, that's where he believes government should have the final say and "freedom" gets thrown out the window.
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    I was talking about the article and that's what it said, bud. If you want to extrapolate from there, that's not my problem.
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    Coward? Direct challenge? I was under the impression it was impossible to be a coward on the net :X
    And FWIW, I was not insinuating anything - you just took it as such. You said that the MP3 file you have can't be proven that it was downloaded illegally... I was saying that your cache can be very telling.

    And besides.... what the hell is with the crude/rude rhetoric that you have had since I lurked here? Can't you ever talk to someone like a human or do you always have to put everyone down? :bricks:
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