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Are you optomistic about the change?

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  2. No

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  1. NEPatriot

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    Obama is elected. Are you optomistic about the future of country? Please vote.
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    Optimistic, as now I think that people really believe that things can change and somehow be different for the better. Yesterday will go down as a very historical moment, and a day to be remembered for a long time.
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    why don't you just ask people if hey voted for McCain or Obama, the answers are going to be identical.
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    Nope. We're becoming way too much of a "what can your country do for you" society.
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    People don't understand that they can't rely on the government to solve their problems. If you look at what happens in Katrina, you will understand what I mean. You will be better off if you don't depend on anybody for anything.

    When they realize that their country can't do sht for them, they are disappointed.
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    #24 Jersey

    Unfortunately that was the worst thing about the "bailout". The money was bad enough but the "what about me" reaction was even worse.
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    I like our chances.
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    1. Socialism doesn't work.
    2. I don't think either party understands how to make America better. My vote would be "No" no matter which president got elected. The last Bi-partisan bill was the bailout, and you know how that went.
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    We as a nation face problems far bigger than Katrina in the coming decade... Are you gonna take care of it all yourself?
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    From what I'm seeing Obama's election is doing a wealth of good for non-white Americans and people around the world. This has restored faith in America as still the best hope of the world for all people, and that is a very good thing. Doesn't mean there will not be many serious challenges ahead; of course there are and will be. But perhaps for the first time in US history all people will feel they are part of the situation because they have a real stake in it. Again, only good for America.


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    Great post, and not one I expected from you tbh. You are dead on here.
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    We talked about this in the other thread about it. I actually do think it's a good description. I realize that said "I won't have to worry about" does not equal "I won't have to pay". However I also realize that most people don't have the command of the English language that you and I do. I'm trying to figure out what she could have meant.

    If she currently has to worry about her mortgage. But, under Obama, won't have to worry about her mortgage then what's the change ? Is her payment going to go down under Obama or is she confident her take home pay will go up. Maybe she meant the latter, I don't know. But the logical step from worrying yesterday to not worrying today solely due to the President elect is questionable at best.
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    I'm not about to get into an argument of what her intent was, or whether the context was mistaken. I just think the video is funny. Maybe she meant it that way, maybe she didn't.
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    How can you say that video is funny and then say admit that she didn't actually say what the title says and what she did say she might not have meant?

    This woman is stupid and emblematic of Obama's supporters but I'm not going to debate it.:rolleyes:
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    I don't see it that way at all. I think blacks will be happy "one of theirs" was elected but it won't keep fathers at home, kids in school or solve any of the other problems.

    (disclaimer, this can apply to all poor areas but I referenced blacks as that's the subject of the day given the President elect).
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    I totally agree too. There is no denying that fact. It is a positive he certainly brings.
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    :D

    Actually, my wife is *more* of a "conservative" than I am. (!!!)

    Who knew???


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