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    A little perspective for those of us that think we are naturally superior. I've copied just a small part of a pretty long piece. I recommend it all be read, then lets climb down off of our high horses.


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    We have a moderator who has no problem thinking this is true.:rolleyes:
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    Maybe I'm taking it all too seriously, but things like this are a little disturbing. It's a little like the first steps toward the dehumanization of "the other".
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    I don't think you are at all, of course superior beings will no doubt attribute your take to an insufficient brain development some where along the line that they of course have attained.

    This kind of superior attitude is not new. It's been done many times over the ages and to this day there are those that think blacks are intellectually inferior and have the "science" to prove it, for example. I'm disturbed we can't see the bigoted nature of these "studies", whether it be about race, political or religious
    convictions.
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    No but same is true for conservatives, I don't care what a study says....I go by what I have seen and that is both have good ppl and they both have their nuts, both have smart ppl and both have less then intelligent ones.

    In any case why does it matter? I don't think being better then one or the other is gonna solve our problems, its really just boils down to common sence and not living in deamland, being honest about our countrys problems and working it out cause we deserve better and so do our kids.:rocker:

    Sometimes we all just need to step back and remember how lucky we all are and how many lifes it took to build this country and remember not to treat it like ****, take it for granted....All of the people before us are counting on us to get our stuff straight so their efforts were not in vain.

    It needs to stop being about red or blue, lib or con.....Stop looking for ways to seprate us and look for ways to unite us.;)
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    No..........
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    Did they ask 90 people a question with answers ranging from 1-5, and then come up with a certification? This stuff is really dumb.
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    I think conservatives are more fearful, but that doesn't mean less intelligent. In fact, educated liberals embrace a more modern definition of intelligence than any of those articles seem to embrace.

    First of all consider the fact that an IQ test has a standard deviation of 15 points, and a person with an IQ of 95 could be fairly intelligent (110) or cognitively impaired (80). So, IQ is even by its own standards a pretty rough measure of intelligence.

    In addition, consider the fact that IQ tests were basically developed by white Chiristian men who worked within the framework of their culture to define intelligence, and it's clear that the test does not measure those whose intelligence is based on physical prowess (such as with athletes), musical skills, survival skills in a less developed society, and so on. Education to some degree has been largely influence by Howard Gardner's idea of multiple intelligences -- and the idea that some people learn by reading, others by doing, still others by listening, others by internal processing, and so on. In other words, the construct called "intelligence" is very imprecise.

    But, one good things about these kinds of studies is that it feeds conservatives a dose of their own medicine, especially those conservative who choose to believe that blacks are less intelligent, Muslims are terrorists, and so on. It shows how hurtful bigotry can be even when it's rooted in science. That said, the notion that conservatives are more fearful, as in the thread I posted earlier, I think is reasonable. Is fear more intelligent; well, clearly those conservatives on guard against various minorities think so.

    Luckily being a liberal therapist, I'm well read on intelligence, and to a good degree the concept is a bunch of bunk.
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    The liberals illusion that they are "the ones" is itself something they themselves are constantly accusing others who dare not to think as they do of, they are "BIGOTS" they consider themselves to be better than anybody who doesn't agree with their whacked out slobbering moonbat bullsh!t.


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    The thing is the line has been crossed. It's no longer just a a matter of name calling..."you guys are greedy, you guys are homophobic, you guys are sexist". Now it's you guys are genetically or developmentally inferior. Actually it's both. Not only are we all those things, we aren't up to your abilities either but "we're holding you accountable anyway"
    You see there is some fair criticism of some conservatives, some Tea Partiers, some Republicans some everthing's. Some blacks are violent criminals. hmmm i'll bet it will only take a few searches on google to find out that is because they were born that way.Oh, surprise! here's one YouTube - The Genetics of Black Violence - Part 1

    See it's no longer just a slippery slope. After years of this assault many just take it for granted that they're better examples of humanity. In the other post about the differences in our brains there was actual serious discussion how that study explains everything now. Some was flippant but a lot wasn't. WTF?

    Your "dose of our own medicine" comment at least suggest some culpability.
    And no disrespect but being well read doesn't translate to being not bigoted. Take for example Nobel Prize James Watson who co-discovered DNA and the double helix structure who said this:“inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really."
    Harvard Student Says Blacks Genetically Inferior | Grow The Heck Up
    Does anyone see any parallels?

    Clearly there are fearful, bigoted conservatives. It's common knowledge, right? You can read about it! But if you are one and you do see now that it's it's plain wrong to look upon other entire groups of people as being born inferior then stop. You are getting a dose of your own medicine. And progressives don't think your above it because exhibit "A" is staring you right in the face.

    I know I'm lecturing and maybe i don't have the credentials to do so but I guess I was born this way.:rolleyes:
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    There's no correlation between fear and intelligence or fear and inferiority as you seem to imply.

    Your point about genetic inferiority is right on target. I do not think conservatives or any other group is less or more intelligent than any other group, and the fact that studies exist that look at intelligence raise more questions about the meaning of "intelligence" than whether one group is smarter than another.

    And don't talk to me about getting a dose of my own medicine, when in my experience it is conservative who are more likely to criticize me because my genetic differences than I am to criticize them.
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    The correlation is in the ability to process "proper" responses in certain environments and accordingly the way one lives their life and why one winds up politically on the "wrong side". The implication is that the conservative group isn't physiologically or developmentally up to the task which says "Inferior" loud and clear. If that's not what you are saying or implying then I apologize. If you re-read what I wrote I was trying to tell bigoted conservatives that they were indeed now getting a taste of their own medicine and at the same time telling progressives that subscribe to the same thing....as evidenced by the implications in these studies that they were not above it. If you've been a victim of criticism for it then I would think you'd be front and center against it no matter who the target group is.
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    Well in checking up on a Churchill quote for another thread I cam across one of his thoughts that fits this thread:


    "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally
    look at the results."



    Liberals fancy themselves more intelligent than others and therefore
    should decide how they should spend their tame and use their property (mostly giving it to the government for liberals to spend to show their generosity).

    They continue on with their policies no matter the (usually detrimental) results.

    Oh yeah how accurate is this quote describing modern liberals:

    "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance,
    and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue
    is the equal sharing of misery"
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    They can't be too dumb.

    It's kinda genius getting poor people to fight rich people's wars.

    It's not that they're generally dumb. They're just generally immoral.

    Which is ironic, considering such a huge percentage of them anoint themselves the party of God.
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    A great quote -- and advice that would be well heeded by conservatives and liberals both.


    Yeah, no conservatives consider themselves more intelligent. And certainly they never consider themselves superior in other ways (more patriotic, the "real" Americans, etc.)

    And while liberals / Dems certainly tend to advocate for higher taxes and many forms of regulations, conservatives are almost as bad when it comes to spending, along with criminal law. And they, too "continue on with their policies no matter the (usually detrimental) results" as you put it.


    Not very, given that being a liberal doesn't make one a socialist.
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    No, they're not...


    ... though in the case of the supposedly religious right / family values types who are shown to be full of it (Newt and multiple members of the "prayer house", for ex), I wholeheartedly agree with you.
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    The genius continues under the liberals power now, doesn't it? Prove the huge percentage. Prove they're generally immoral..anyway any more immoral than "your group"

    You stereotype. i thought that wasn't what tolerant people do.
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    Liberals are Bigots, they can't stand people who aren't liberal they think non liberals are beneath them, Thats Bigotry.

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    The great majority of jet/yankee fans call themselves conservatives, what more needs to be said?
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    Hey, what-evah pah-tie is the "wicked-smaht" party...that's the one I belong to!!:rocker::rolleyes:

    So let's see...the premise of the this thread is that one political party in the USA is SMAH-TAH than the other...Hmmmm, reminds me of the days in my yute when I'd argue that my dad was better than my friends dad....:confused:

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