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  1. pats1

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    http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/02/13/ap-story-raises-questions/

     
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    :confused: Um, pats1, what exactly is your point?
     
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    i was listening to that whole segment this morning.

    Greeny must have repeated the quote about 6 times.

    It was incredibly annoying.

    Just when you thought he wouldn't say it again, he said it again with a tone like "I bet the pats cheated in every superbowl".

    Finally Mike Golic came out and said that it doesn't make much sense since the NFL only collected 6 tapes and already said that no superbowls were "tainted".
     
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    Despite what Pats1 thinks, the quote makes perfect sense.

    It's not my problem that Mike Golic has difficult reading.

    The same article says they had 6 tapes that were all recent, but notes dating back which speak to previous tapings.

    Idiots.
     
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    My interpretation of this: AP blows. Mike & Mike blow. Specter blows.
     
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    Pats1 posted an article for information. He didn't make any point or say what he thinks.
     
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    Read the relevant quote from the AP article:

    That is false information, unless this AP writer is revealing new information.
     
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    Either the AP is blatantly lying or they know something the public has to this point not known.
     
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    I wish I could take a nap, wake up and it would all go away.. deep down there are a lot of comparable skeletons in every NFL franchises closet, we got caught and our coach is taking a bullet for many.
     
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    Is the hearing going on right now, or later in the day?
     
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    i don't think there's hearing ( that's Clemens, Pettite, his trainer and the HGh/Steroids issue). There is a meeting between spector and Goodell behind closed doors until somebody talks to the press
     
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    It's not a hearing. Goodell is meeting with Specter in his office.
     
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    Haha I have no idea why I wrote "hearing".

    I've been watching this Clemens one for the last 3 hours and it replaced the correct word in my mind.
     
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    If BB was videotaping signals in 2000. It sure didn't help Bledsoe or our record. Didn't we end the season 5 and 11?
     
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    Agreed.

    I would think he has been doing this for a long time, as have other coaches. If I recall, the official rules prohibit the use of videotaping for in game use (i.e., using the signals taped during the game in that game). This was Belichick's defense - that he was not using the tapes for in-game use. However, I recall that the Commissioner sent a memorandum in 2006 that specifically prohibited the use of sideline video and this is what got Belichick in trouble, despite the fact that he could still claim that if you read the league rules and the memo together, they only prohibit the "in-game" use of sideline video. Belichick lost that defense. However,the fact that they turned in tapes dating back to 2006 is not surprising as I do not believe the prohibition applied pre-2006. In which case, whether they were doing this back in 2000 is irrelevant (except for the media bozos who will claim it taints our SBs).
     
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    Here's a new story that says Specter wants the NFL to idemnify Walsh.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3244157

    It's pretty funny to think that Specter now wants Walsh to reveal stolen trade secrets publicly, while last week he broached prosecuting the Patriots for stealing trade secrets.

    What a hypocrite.

    Also, this article shows that Chris Mortenson reported on BB and Goodell's conversation way back in the fall.

    What in the world are Sando, Mike & Mike thinking? Maybe they should toss this to their colleagues first before making fools of themselves to the world?
     
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    No contradiction in stories. Tapes are from 2006 and 2007 and notes date back further. No "blatantly false" info given, probably poor coverage of Goodells comments in Sept 2007 by some to smart to listen media member. Wonder why no one jumped on Tomase's story for giving "blatantly false" info with his walkthough bs story.

    As pointed out above, Mort reported this earlier.
     
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    :rolleyes:

    what did rush limbaugh have to say about it?

    how can you even listen to those 2 a-holes?
    do yourself a favor and get sirius radio and listen to the nfl network.
     
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    Let's take a closer look:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2008-02-12-goodell-specter_N.htm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3244157

    There's contradictions even in those two stories. Was it September or October? Was it a private confession perpetuated by "unnamed sources," or was it a public release by the NFL?

    I've searched and searched for any article that has the NFL publicly saying that Belichick did engage in the practice since 2000. Haven't found anything. Nor have I found ESPN's article dealing the matter.

    Or is it this:

    http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/sp_fbn_goodell02_02-02-08_AO8S1OB_v5.3482570.html

    And that's a totally different story. Asking for and receiving are two different things.
     
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    When did the rule take effect? If it was in 2005 then tapes before then were allowed.

    Does anyone know?
     
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