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    I was in 306 this week usually I sit in lower bowl and I was looking down at the field I was marveling at how poorly designed Gillette Stadium is because there are so many would be great seats in the 200 Bowl that are open spaces now (in the sidelines and the endzones).

    At the same time the top ten rows of the stadium are in outer space pretty much. For the fourth quarter my old man and I went down to the banners and stood over there to watch the end. As we watched from that spot in the 200 level I thought to myself these would be amazing seats what a shame there are no seats here. Just curious if anyone else shares my opinion.
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    There were some things done for cosmetics that one would look at as poor design but the real flaw was intential on their part. The coorperate seats take up almost all of the 200 bowl and in the perfect spots between the 20s but it was done that way as they are the ones who pay for the stadium...well the luxary guys too.

    In some ways it is a shame that the rich guys can't be loud but you can't complain to much as they are picking up a large portion of the tab that we would have been paying for.

    And I must say that I love the way the stadium looks. I think it is a very nice peice of arcitecture made to look real nice by the accesseries in the back left corner :D
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    I like the bridge-it adds interest and makes everything beyond it seem more of an extension of the stadium proper.

    That said, I agree about the upper tiers...yikes. People say it feels almost like a complete vertical drop. I guess the stairs are killer in that respect too, unless you're into rappelling:p
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    I've been to Gillette just once. Last year in the AFC championship game. Aesthetically, I love how the stadium looks. But I think it doesn't allow noise to get magnified like in other stadiums I've been in. Might be that the fans really don't like to get all loud, but there are large gaps where noise escapes. I lived in South Florida for a while and have been to Pro Player a bunch and that place gets loud. It's not state-of-the-art stadium, but it's pretty loud. I now live outside of DC/Baltimore and went to the Monday night game last year and that place was ELECTRIC! Everybody was jacked and I couldn't hear myself think. The Ravens have a great home field advantage IMO because of the crowd noise. The noise level reminded me of the University of Miami games I attended in the Orange bowl. It was nuts.

    In the AFCCG, the crowd noise was 'meh'. I was pretty disappointed. The facility was great however.
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    The problem is that the club seats and luxary boxes have really moved the 300 section away from the field. I had tickets on the 40 yard line in the 300 section in Foxboro stadium. Those seats are now $3-5k club seats. I think I paid $50 a ticket in 2001 for them.

    I am in the 200 section now under the banners (maybe you saw me) and I am farther away from the field with a horrible siteline angle. Part of the reason why I went from going to every game to only a handful a year.

    There are definitely advantages of the new stadium (no more fighting for arse space on benches anymore). But there are disadvantages like needing a oxygen tank to sit in the upper section of the 300 level.
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    The fact that half the fans mouths were covered might have had something to do with it...got a bottle of water at half time...it was frozen by the 4th quarter!

    The seating ay not be the greatest from a functional standpoint, but the lighthouse/bridge is a thing of beauty. But I suppose from my avatar you could've guessed I was kind of partial to that...
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    Oh but the lighthouse and bridge are so quaint.
    Tear them down and put them outside as some type of amusement park. In there place build seats which would enclose the stadium, make more money, and produce more noise. Everybody wins.
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    I wouldn’t go as far as saying it is poorly designed but there are things I would have done differently in building the stadium, but hey there is more then one way to skin a cat
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    This may be sacrilege, but I hate the lighthouse. My father calls it "the torch", not to be funny but because he keeps forgetting what it's supposed to be.
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    I criticized the Razor design before anyone else, back when it was being designed.

    First of all it obsolete when built as it was TOO SMALL. It only has 68,756 seats. Every other stadium in the AFCE has a minimum of 5000 to 22,000 more seats. ( Giants Jets abuilding). It was obvious once all had plenty of premium seats, absolute seating capacity makes the difference. After the last CBA, the benefits of lux boxes are now gone.

    It holds no Noise. There is lots of unused space.

    There was no provision to provide an area for fans to stimulate the players like the proverbial "Dog Pound" in the massive Cleveland Municipal Stadium. Football is a game of emotions and Gillette provides little incentives to stir the emotions.
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    i think the open spaces you are talking about are there so that there is no wind swirl. most modern outdoor stadiums i believe now have a way for wind to move from end to end. they are not pure bowls.

    i agree that 300s are way way up there.
    i like the lighthouse in the forest
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    My biggest complaint is that its not very conducive to holding the noise in the stadium
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    It is beautiful, it's not designed to keep in sound, it's designed to be a great venue for Football and it really does have that "small town" look you know?
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    I think Gilette stadium is a major disappointment. It looks nice, but is not well designed for football. I believe the Krafts were influenced by some of the newer baseball stadiums that had an open air feel that allows you to view the field from the concession areas. This combined with the Fidelity club seats in the heart of the stadium has made it by far the quietest in the NFL.
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    Looks great but the rabid fans, many of those in the 300s are too far away to make noise. The 200s red seats are sparsely populated. Nobody's gonna be in them Thurs night with 40 degree rain. Add the stupid lighthouse open end and the open concourses in the opposite EZ and sound escapes rather than being reflected.
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    Absolutely beautiful place, but I prefer the bowl style. It's not meant to get loud by its structure. Bowls frickin' shake :)
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    I LOVE Gillette - I love the design, comfort and convenience, but MOST of all - I love the fact we are 51-10 there, going on 52-10 and I haven't missed a game since it opened!!
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    My wife and I went to our first game this year. Our seats were in the 300 section. For the most part we liked the stadium until we got to our seats. We had a staircase landing right in our line of sight and had to look through the glass to see the other of the field. I was surprised that a modern stadium would have that flaw.

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    Many, many design flaws:

    * The 200-level "skylights" are a waste of space where thousands of seats could be. Same as with the open end at the north end zone.

    * Two tiers of luxury boxes between the 200 and 300 level lift the 300 level much higher than it should be. If they had just done a more conventional closed stadium design, everyone would be closer to the action. Luxury box suites should be on a single level around the perimeter of the stadium.

    * Club seats should also be on a single level around the perimeter of the entire stadium, instead of being concentrated in the "red seats" between the 20-yard-lines on both sides at the 200 level. Not enough of these high-roller types stay seated during the games, creating a crowd noise dead zone.

    * The Krafts made a mistake by widening the stadium floor footprint to accommodate soccer. This has created further space between the stands and the football field. The stands at Gillette are too big for pro soccer, which should be played in a much smaller venue. They should have built a smaller stadium just for soccer for about 25,000 fans.

    * The way the stadium is so wide open and spread out, and considering the strategic placement of the club seating, the place just does not hold noise like most other NFL stadiums. I really think they could move MANY if not MOST of the 300-level seats to the 200 and 100 levels by filling in some of that wasted space.
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    I take it you never went to a game in Shaeffer Stadium.
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    Does anyone believe, that with the highest prices in the league, and a stadium in the middle of nowhere, that when the Brady era ends and we have a few 3-6 win seasons that the Razor will continue to sell-out?
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    Football is 8 ~10 maybe 12 games a year
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    I don't care what anyone says about football purism and weather advantages, I want a sick dome. Something tells me that if the Pats had foreseen the Moss acquisition that's what we would have gotten. I'd rather see the best athletes in the country performing at their highest level every Sunday than watch games that are "natural" but swayed by weather. It'd be nice to actually hear the crowd once in a while too.
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    My thoughts exactly.

    Many people need to remember that this stadium is a whole lot better than the old one. Though part of me misses that stadium, the memory quickly fades when I remember the lines to the bathrooms, and those damn troughs (sp) .lol.
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    O.K., I admit the Lack-O-Noise thing boggles the mind, as you'd think that would have been considered when paying that kind of money to build the place. However, all you need to do is come down and watch one game here at the Redskins "new" stadium, and you will thank your lucky stars.

    Talk about ugly, impratical, inconvenient, and uncomfortable! I'm not changing the subject. I'm just saying, for all the things not considered when building The Razor, just multiply that by 100. Although, the noise helps the home team alot more here, for sure.
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    My biggest complaint is the fact it's more of a multi-purpose design than one made just for football. It seems no matter how loud the fans are the decibels just don't translate, and anyone who's been way up in the nosebleed section knows it's not comfortable standing up and moving for fear you'll take a nose dive lol.

    Those not living in MA may or may not have heard that Fidelity's about to lay off like 1300 people so maybe the fate of those seats could be in flux?

    Anyway, it's still a beautiful venue and I love the openness of it (jmho:D) and I'd never want to be domed. The weather's part of our legacy; maybe someday we'll be forced indoors but considering how many years it took us to change from grass (mud lol) to turf, I wouldn't hold my breath for a dome.
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    Can someone post that website where you can see the view from every section if you put the section in the URL? I can't find it anywhere.
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