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Whichever one Miami leaves us?
No chance. Doesn't even come close to fitting BB's 6'4 4.6 prototype.
I also may be the only person who doesn't like him as a first-round pick. I know people compare him to Woodley, but I don't think he is as strong as Woodley and isn't as tall, long, agile, or fast. I think the step-up in talent level in the NFL, especially the bigger and more agile OTs, will limit his production.
Woodley: 6'2 266 lbs. 4.66 40. 32 7/8-inch arm length.
Graham: 6'1 263 lbs. 4.71 40. 32 1/4-inch arm length.
I agree with this, i think him and Kindle are both 2nd round talents, and both will make it past the first round.
I don't want a OLB with the first rounder, i think it's a tough position to judge because most don't play the position in college, and over the past few years they tend to have fallen in the draft a bit.
I know most people dont want to hear this, but i think this is a good year to trade down with all this depth.
No chance. Doesn't even come close to fitting BB's 6'4 4.6 prototype.
I also may be the only person who doesn't like him as a first-round pick. I know people compare him to Woodley, but I don't think he is as strong as Woodley and isn't as tall, long, agile, or fast. I think the step-up in talent level in the NFL, especially the bigger and more agile OTs, will limit his production.
Woodley: 6'2 266 lbs. 4.66 40. 32 7/8-inch arm length.
Graham: 6'1 263 lbs. 4.71 40. 32 1/4-inch arm length.
Don't know where you got your numbers buddy, but those are wrong.
Woodley was measured in at 6'1.4", 266 lbs, with a 4.74 40 yard dash.
Graham measured 6'1.3", 268 lbs, with a 4.71 40 yard dash.
That would make your analysis completely false. Graham is nearly exactly the same height, and is faster. As for agility, that would come down to watching tape, and I didn't watch tape on Woodley back in the day.
And Belichick clearly is drifting away from the "prototype." Adalius Thomas, Derrick Burgess, Banta-Cain, and Ninkovich, the Pats 4 top OLB's last year, were all 6'2" or shorter.
I got my numbers from CBS Sportsline/NFL Draft Scout, a pretty reliable source. The discrepancy in our numbers is likely a result of Pro Day, personal workout, and combine numbers.
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NFL DRAFT SCOUT is definitely a good tool to go back and look at how others players performed. They have woodley measurements at:
40 Time: 4.74 40 Low: 4.68 40 High: 4.84
Height: 6-2 Weight: 266
Pretty standard disparity, many Pro-Day 40's tend to be a tenth of a second faster, you will frequently find that some colleges have notoriously fast surfaces - Penn State and I believe Michigan tend to fall into this group - when compared to Combine "official" times. Mike Mayock used to harp on that when explaining timing differences.LaMarr Woodley, Michigan, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com
This CBS Sports link draft profile of Woodley, which is copyright property of NFL Draft Scout, has Woodley running a 4.62 during his Michigan Pro Day.