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  1. DarrylS

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    Thought the mantra of the right was that life was precious, perhaps it only applies to the womb.. another innocent man was executed in a rush to judgement once again.. this case was on 60 minutes a while ago and I remember it well...

    This seems to have been happening often lately.. always thought in capital murder cases that there was a need to provide a "vigorous" defense and that every safeguard was afforded the defendant.. guess more shortcuts taken, innocent men killed. Perhaps it is just more collateral damage on the crusade to effect the death penalty.

    Cameron Todd Willingham Exoneration Was Written But Never Filed By Texas Judge

    The Innocence Project - Home
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    Lot of innocent people being killed in Chicago also, nightly.
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    by the government?

    You've really got a one track mind, don't you?
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    The guy was executed years before the evidence was disputed.


    I like the idea of DNA to make sure the right people are in jail for the crime.
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    He wasn't black Harry, you don't have to defend the people who wrongly killed him.
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    Where did you see this?

    According to the Innocence Project the forensics were shown to be faulty by an arson expert as part of his appeals.
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    The link indicated he was executed in 2004 and that the exoneration was posthumous.
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    The exoneration, yes -- not disputing of the evidence
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    When was the vvidence 'disproven'? Date?
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    From your link:



    IOW New evidence AFTER he was executed in 2004.
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    I guess you don't know what the word "further" means.

    "... in the days leading up to Willingham’s execution, his attorneys sent the governor and the Board of Pardon and Parole a report from Gerald Hurst, a nationally recognized arson expert, saying that Willingham’s conviction was based on erroneous forensic analysis. Documents obtained by the Innocence Project show that state officials received that report but apparently did not act on it. Willingham was executed by lethal injection in Huntsville on February 17, 2004."

    You really have a hard time admitting even the simplest of mistakes, don't you?
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    The right cannot deal with their casual disregard for wrongful deaths.. the neo con collateral damage argument. They continue to defend the State of Texas, for no reason except because they are conditioned to do so...

    Some myths debunked about this case...

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/Myths_and_Facts_about_the_Willingham_Case.php

    http://www.innocenceproject.org/Con...lly_Convicted_and_Executed_in_Texas.php#media

    Going back to the original contention in this article. capital murder cases require a "vigorous defense".. however in this case that did not appear to happen. Often this is the case in "poor" folks, in some states they have special PD's who provide for a response consistent with this standard... however in this case it does not seem as though this happened. This is hardly a vigorous defense, one witness who testified to his "character".. an "exhaustive" two day trial ensued.

    Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann#ixzz1vP8AzagL
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    If the 'further' evidence wasn't critical why mention it?

    If the exisiting evidence were adequate why mention the 'further' evidence?
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    Maybe you should stick to one point before moving on to another.

    What you originally said and I questioned: "The guy was executed years before the evidence was disputed..."

    The evidence was disputed before he was executed. You apparently can't bring yourself to admit you were mistaken.
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    This is what 13 would refer to as a "deflection" if harry were a lefty instead of being 13's boy.

    And shhh? As you point out, this was in the Huffington Post -- so is it being covered up or not?

    Finally, do you have any concept of how a calendar works? or what day (or month) it is? Why are you posting something that's 2 months old and trying to pass it off as current? Just an honest mistake -- let's see if you're capable of admitting to them, unlike some folks here -- or are you intentionally trying to mislead people?

    back to the subject: how is this related to Texas killing Cameron Willingham?
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