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  1. Rob0729

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    Well, he posted again. I don't know if he is full of crap or has the real goods, but his last post got a lot of talk on this board and around town (Felger even addressed the post on his radio show). Well here is his latest:

    http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=nfl&id=nwe&tid=2515087&lid=16
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    That is some awesome stuff right there.
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    wow. thanks for posting something that isn't littered with stupidity.

    good stuff, even if it isn't true.
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    What is the impetus for any "agreement" with Walsh? just let him slow burn in silence. If Spector is the man who supposedly "wants" an agreement, but Spector is actually undermining the ability to reach said agreement, then why bother? Walsh's ability to tell his fantasies serves no compelling public interest.

    As far Merriweather, i do not have a warm and fuzzy over his moving to cb. At the senior bowl drills he was very quick and adept, and held up reasonably well in the preseason. But he was becoming dynamic as a FS toward the end of the season and I see no reason to set him up for future failure by forcing a position change.

    Ty Law..ZZZZZ. who cares.

    Moss is everything a Pats fan could want. We are truly lucky to have him. And when Chad Jackson starts producing and flashing big time ability this season, Moss will deserve alot of the credit for mentoring the kid.
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    If this is true, then it sure seems like taking a CB at #7 is off the board.
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    Interesting. Has this person posted in the past and been right?

    I still think Meriweather is going to be too good at FS to move to CB. To me, really, him at FS really solves a lot of problems and makes this defense MUCH better. We were basically starting two strong safeties (Harrison and Sanders) for a lot of the year, and by my pedestrian understanding, in a cover 3 thats the last thing you'd want given you're asking one of your safeties to cover a lot of range.

    As for Moss, I'd love to see them send him over the middle more. Just look at the Colts and Super Bowl games, the drives that brought us back in the game relied heavily on intermediate routes for Moss that took him inside.

    Ty Law, love to see him back. And I'd be willing to pay a little more than others would to have him back.

    Glad to hear about Capers and "aggression". I'm loving it. Hope all this stuff is true.
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    My personal take with Specter/Walsh is that Specter doesn't want Walsh to talk ever or at least until after his book hits the stands for a few months. Specter is loving the publicity and attention. Since a large portion of the media doesn't want to tarnish Walsh's credibility until they hear what he has will stop them from trying to find a connection between Walsh, Levy, Specter, and/or Comcast.

    If the media finds a connection between Specter and Levy in regards to Walsh, whatever Walsh has to say is tarnished potentially beyond repair unless he has proof. Since the general media really doesn't care about this story and it is basically the sports media that does, it is more important for them to have the dirt on Belichick and the Patriots than Specter. I think if the general media cared more about this story, they might approach it towards what is Specter's involvement and agenda in all of this. Until Walsh speaks though, no one outside of the ESPN, SI, NY Times Sports pages world of media cares.

    As for Meriweather, I personally have always thought that he could end up anywhere in the secondary and his experiment at CB last preseason wasn't just an "in case Samuel sits out" move. He does have the physical skills to be a very good CB. He gotta work on those hands though.

    As for Capers, I think this move will be a great move. I am guessing he will ultimately end up being the defacto DC and potential the actual DC next season. His defenses have always been more agressive than many other ones.
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    It wouldn't just tarnish Walsh either - Specter would look awful if such a connection were found. It'd probably make everyone realize what a joke it is that a Senator is spending his time on something like this.
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    Now that I think about it Capers is a pretty strong defensive guy, and the two corners they signed were starters, albeit on marginal teams.

    Wouldn't it be funny if NEinsider was Ernie Adams or somebody lol
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    I do think it would tarnish Walsh's credibility. It would definitely hurt Specter more, but by hiding the Specter connection to the whole thing would raise doubts to what the agenda was or if Walsh was encouraged to embellish what he had to say to push Specter's agenda. I think if Levy is being funded by Specter and/or Comcast and found out, I think many honest journalists will discount anything Walsh has to say that isn't supported by evidence.
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    They all want to be on spectre's side because they don't have anything to gain by the NFL channell becoming mainstream. They would than have to compete with the NFL channel which has better access to the sport.

    Even mainstream Media is in the same boat because just about all the major media outlets have sports covered.
    What do they gain by the NFL channell being mainstream, that they could make up for with one scandal about a shady senator?
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    Most people who actually study or know this team believe that there is not a CB they would take at #7. If they go that route it will be a lineman, even if he projects as an OLB here. They likely really want to trade down to where they could possibly take a corner with a lot more upside yet representing a value compared to what they've mined in essentially day 2 picks to date. Just remains to be seen if some sucker outside the top 10 wants a player who's still on the board when #7 rolls around.

    Bill wants Ty because Bill is a master at working around lost steps. I think he probably also believes that a more motivated (and better conditioned) Ty could potentially regain a half step and fill a starting role here in transition. Unfortunately getting Ty represented by a Poston to sign an agreement is about as frustrating as attempting to get Matt Walsh represented by a Levy to.

    Still not buying the Specter connection, at least directly. Comcast, maybe via a lobbyiest with lots of DC connections. Some other self righteous mediot from the other 4 letter sports network equally likely. Florio claimed a couple of weeks ago he had information on who hooked Walsh and Levy up that disproved his personal speculation it was Specter - but he was claiming he would not reveal who the individual was because it was told to him (the rumor monger king) in confidentiality...
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    Well, based on the post, it will probably be someone Adams' age. NEInsider calls Moss a young man. I can't see anyone in their 30s or early to mid 40s calling someone who is 30 a "very engaging young man".

    Personally, I still question if this guy is really an insider. Some of what he said in his first post didn't ring true to me.
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    What he said!

    You have to have intelligence and knowledge of the Patriots even to make this stuff up.
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    Hah! Good catch...I completely failed to register that the first time through. Still implies nothing as to the probability of the remarks, but it adds an interesting wrinkle.
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    I really hope this ESPN guy is real....that was an awesome read for news starved fans of NE.

    I love the Capers signing as it will be nice to get aggressive and make plays and maybe get away from this soft - let them screw up - defense.

    Bend but do not break only works when the other team cannot sustain their drives - well, two years running now - we "broke" at the worst possible moment (even though the Giants sure did try to hand it to us)

    Meriweather really did look good down the stretch and his increased playtime in playoffs & SB confirms what Mr. ESPN said.

    Levy / Spector / Walsh are all related somehow - even if only by their personal agendas which having nothing to do with the truth, bit everything to do with money. Spector has a book, Comcast has a bought and paid for senator to use in their battle VS NFL Network, Walsh is a scumbag looking for anything so he does not have to greet people at Walmart and Levy is a typical lawyer (no scruples whatsoever). Follow the money.

    I think we draft the best of what is there at #7 - and it wont be a corner....exciting to say the least.

    Ty Law needs to figure his future value if he retires a Patriot - I think he would make out big time, in endorsements if he walks off with a ring - sign the damn contract Ty -you belong here.
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    I really doubt that NBC, CBS, or Fox are on Specter's side at all. They all have a lot to lose if Walsh opens a can of worms that causes not only the Pats, but other teams to be suspected of cheating to affect the outcome of games. These networks own NFL broadcasting rights that would that would lose them millions or even billions if people stop watching because they feel the games are fixed or rigged.

    ESPN has a financial stake too, but are probably privately smarting since they paid a billion a year for Monday Night Football thinking it would be the premiere game of the week only for the NFL to make Sunday night the premiere game when NBC bought the rights and then made it so they couldn't broadcast their highly rated NFL Primetime since NBC has the exclusive national Sunday night rights to most of the highlight video.
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    I followed the money and I wound up in the pockets of Asante Samuel, guess he is responsible for spygate.:D
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    They certainly are not doing anything to protect their money. If they felt they had more to lose from a cheating scandal than the NFL network than why don't they step up to the plate?
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    Well, at this point, there is nothing to protect. The NFL hasn't really been hurt by any of this at this point. Besides, they have to be careful to not look like they are protecting their assets anyway.

    I don't think the NFL Network is in jepordy in any way. If anything, Specter winning means that more people have access to the NFL Network since Specter wants both the NFL Network and Sunday Ticket on Comcast at affordable pricing. That directly goes against the best interest of NBC, CBS, and FOX.
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    Pocket change when you look at what Comcast Vs NFL Network brings.....
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    If that is what Specter "wants" then he is tampering with the free market system. The one that the NFL used, fairly, to put NFL Direct Ticket out there and had the companies bid on them. DirecTV blew Comcast's bid out of the water by nearly 300 million a year. Comcast choked at that because they didn't figure they could get the people to sign up for it.

    Its no different that Electronic Arts getting the exclusive rights to produce Football games using the players real names and real NFL Logos. Personally, I think the NFL was stupid doing that. Just like I think they are stupid in limiting themselves to DirecTV (though its still significantly better than Comcast).
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    The inference on Walsh and his attorney is that if we follow the money trail we might well find a connection with Senator Specter and/or Comcast.

    Wouldn't THAT be interesting! What's clear is that someone with an ax to grind is paying his legal bills.

    On the Patriot's brain trust's view of their secondary and the benefits of Capers as a defensive coach, I'm glad to hear it but can't say I'm surprised.

    We've all seen that on past Patriots teams, coaches have implemented a system that got pro-bowl play out of middle class guys. I don't think we really saw that the last few seasons, and in a way, the Patriots are back to their 2001-2003 "rebuilding" phase, working to win now but with an eye to the future, bringing in quantity in an effort to find quality.

    Seems like a proven success in the past - let's hope so in the future as well.
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    this guy does talk as if he is from the inside...
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    I would infer something from the way that he refers to BB as "Bill", but refers to Polian as Polian. If were putting guesses out there, that makes him closer to the coaching side then the business side.....
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    I've always thought Meriweather had the ability to play CB, as I brought up his holding Calvin Johnson in check, and the four games where he didn't give up a single reception on passes thrown his direction. That being said, I like him better at Safety, and I think his ceiling is higher at Safety. Brandon also didn't seem quite as comfortable at CB when NE tried him out there.

    If they were to move Brandon over to CB on a more permanent basis, then Kenny Phillips could became a good option at Safety, with a trade down. Selecting Quintin Demps (S/DB) or Josh Barrett (SS) would seem like even more of a possibility, as well.

    NE's taking a CB at 7th overall hasn't been among my favorite options to begin with, and this would only strengthen that opinion. I like a number of CB's in this draft class, but I don't see any of them as being good value at 7th overall.

    I still hope they can land Antoine Cason somewhere in the first (trade down) or second (with a trade up), as I think he would develop into a better overall CB than Asante Samuel. Chevis Jackson would still be a good option with that late second or early third, too.
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    Specter may not be an ethical person, but he is smart. Despite his cries to the contrary, Specter probably does not want Walsh to speak about the Patriots. Once Walsh speaks, no matter what he says, the NFL will start to turn the corner on the Spygate controversy. They'll suspend Belichick, or they'll show Walsh to be a liar--regardless of what is said, the NFL will take some form of action. However, if Walsh does not speak, the conspiracy theorists will never go away and the NFL brand will continue to be tarnished. It's amusing if you're not a Patriots fan: Specter yells about the NFL blocking a deal for Walsh to speak, Levy then blocks all the deals for Walsh to speak, and Specter cries about an NFL conspiracy. Specter, for Comcast reasons, or Eagles reasons, or personal reasons, has a gripe with the NFL. It's become personal. So Specter is using the Patriots to punish Goodell and the NFL and there is little Goodell can do about it.
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    If he is on the coaching side I can't picture he is very high up or close to "Bill" because I doubt anyone that important to "Bill" would be speaking as an insider to the orginization on an ESPN blog.

    I would say that maybe the poster used the first name because it is more personal making him seem closer.
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    wesleyan, you must have gone there because that is an excellent point. they don't want walsh out there. the threat of walsh is more powerful than walsh himself. once walsh comes out, specter can't hang him over the pats head anymore. these guys are so transparent it's amazing. how do these douches ever get elected ?
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    One important point--for all practical purposes, the Patriots don't seem to care about what Walsh might have to say.
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