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    NOAA, National Hurricane Center, FEMA, you name it. All these federal groups running around doing nothing but forecasting, warning, preparing you, running evacuations, and eventually doing rescues could be better handled by a private sector "HurriCo" that obviously would do what PEOPLE want, as represented by what they can afford in hurricane-fear gouging binges, instead of acting in the public interest as represented by the Nanny State and its one-size-fits-all evacuate EVERYBODY stupid left-wing ideology.

    The private sector would be so much better at search-and-rescue-for-a-profit, shelter-natural-disaster-victims-for-a-profit exercises.

    Also why should the gubmit rebuild roads, bridges, sewer lines, whatev after a hurricane when the private sector is guaranteed to do it better because of all the competition and free market and invisible hand and whatnot.

    And the goddam National Hurricane Center is the worst, all they ever do is talk and predict and warn and blah blah blah, but in their whole history they have NEVER prevented ONE SINGLE HURRICANE.

    - PFnV,
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    As soon as the Nanny State lets people back on the Outer Banks
     
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    or maybe we just bring the National Guard back from Afghanistan/Iraq and have them respond to this. If i am not mistaken, thats a big part of their job.
     
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    Yeah it was, back in the day. But shouldn't Blackwater have a private army that can do that?
     
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    Oh yeah by the way, I CERTAINLY hope no Republican governor accepts ANY Federal emergency aid of any kind. Except Virginia's, of course.
     
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    If elected Michelle Bachman promises no hurricanes.:p
     
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    Hopefully Irene will blow away this straw man.
     
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    Well, there's your problem right there. Then again, I went and got an Alaskan kayaking package for January.
     
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    Rick Perry will hold an old time really big tent revival and pray away the storms.. meanwhile it still has not rained in Texas.
     
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    Yeah we never survived Hurricanes back in the day before FEMA...... :singing:


    I remember a number of Hurricanes hitting RI when I was a boy, no 24/7 coverage no FEMA and yet we survived, wonder how that happened.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Harry Likes this, when they come back keep them here, f-ck Afganistan
     
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    Yeah,well, you may have survived but in 1954, 60 people and 200 homes did not.

    Providence,Rhode Island hurricanes
     
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    You should have checked the 1938 Hurricane for real death and destruction, the difference is of course satellites to allow people to prepare and evacuate as needed.

    Of course the property loss cannot be prevented in the case of a natural disaster by the Feds or anyone else.


    BTW private insurance did take care of property loss without the feds getting involved.
     
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    I did not mention '38 because you specified "in your lifetime." If you were born before 1938 I apologize....based upon your enlistment years I am thinking you were not.

    But there are federal building codes which much be adhered to now which were not in place at the time. Are you denying that a tougher standard of building materials and specifications have made a difference?


    That's probably debatable since most homeowner's insurance policies do not cover natural disasters.

    Unless, of course, you got a link which backs up your claim.
     
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    Same goes for Galveston in 1900 or so. No advanced warning and it's estimated 8000-12000 perished. While we all hope and pray that the damage and devastation is kept to a minimum, it will be interesting if the Federal response will have improved since Katrina in 2005 and the press coverage of it. The Northeast is much more densely populated.
    I have seen the destruction caused by a Cat 3 Hurricane firsthand, Katrina in Mississippi and television did not do it justice. If you have seen the pictures of the bombed out cities in Europe post-World War 2, it is the closest I can describe it as resembling.
     
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    Conservative = limited government, not zero government.
     
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    Yeah it's just better cuz of satellites... And we woulda gotten those sooner if kennedy had said "we will urge small businesses, before this decade is out, to land a man on the moon and return him safely to earth, as a completely speculative venture in case it leads to some private sector profit..."

    Let them commies use state resources on space programs! The private sector woulda launched Rand I by 1947 if it weren't for them damn nanny state Democrats!
     
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    It was done because of the Cold War.

    BTW Kennedy cut taxes on the rich.
     
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    Yep, he did...all the way down to 65% - or twice as high as they are today.

    BTW Kennedy also believed the following:

    "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."

    The Myth of JFK as Supply Side Tax Cutter - US News and World Report
     
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    Kennedy's not my favorite president for a few reasons, but he had some great one-liners about the dangers of an imbalanced society.
     
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    RI recovered, but not well and not quickly.. the last major hurricane was Carol in 1954, and we lost power for a week.. where we lived was never really fixed, and we lived with water stained ceilings..

    Yes we were less reliant on government, but there were in general less people and it took months to achieve some type of normalcy..

    Do not minimize the impact of hurricanes, FYI FEMA does not do a lot of rebuilding or direct stuff.. their role is more coordination and making sure services are delivered.

    Having worked in several disasters now, it is apparent that volunteer service agencies drive the recovery... and there is a need for coordination of them. Most recentlly after the RI Floods there were Mennonite Church Groups, Methodist Church Groups, Catholic Church Groups etc. All of which, now thanks to George, can be reimbursed by the Federal Government..

    When I was in Louisiana for disaster response, the same thing was apparent.. there are a lot of groups that get mobilized quickly to respond.

    This hurricane has the possibility of disrupting the lives of up to 65 million people.. that is a lot of people, a lot of homes and a lot of businesses. The way it looks right now is that the emergency response system will be stressed to the max times 2.
     
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