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  1. The Brandon Five

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    #75 Jersey

    Many states celebrate surpluses as Congress struggles with debt - Washington Times

    A public employee union in Idaho would help ensure that public servants are never taken advantage of like this. I mean, why give the money to the schools?
     
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    #11 Jersey

    Indiana has been sitting on this for a few years. In order to keep the "rainy day fund" Gov. Daniels has been slashing education, state government and social programs. He has also sold toll roads to private, non American, Companies and happily taken Federal funds.
     
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    The lesson is basically that if you cut services and wages enough you can have a surplus. We already knew that.

    But, it's also worth noting that Indiana was one of the handful of fiscally well-run states even prior to downturn, even when it had its streak of Democratic governors.

    My own feeling is what's going on in DC is pure politics by the Republicans. I think Obama is acting in good faith and by doing so he's splitting the mainstream Republicans and the Tea Party. The ideal would be for the mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats to sit down and hammer out a real deal that works. I'm a liberal, but I recognize fiscal reality, and both sides have no choice but to compromise. Unfortunately, the compromise the Republicans are willing to make is very watered down and does nothing but postpones the problem. Quite obviously our political climate calls for tax increases, deficit cuts, and modest changes to the retirement age for Social Security. Neither liberals nor conservatives can win this one, and compromise is in order. But, the national stage is vastly more politicized than the state stage.
     
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    I agree and I've been saying it for about 2 years now: Barack Obama is the single most divisive POTUS in history. All his promises of uniting Americans are just as empty as his promises of fixing the economy.
     
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    I think Lincoln was more divisive, but then again divisive can sometimes be good.
     
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    I'll ask yet again: how do you measure Obama's divisiveness v that of his predecessor (who also promised to unite Americans)?

    (Is it merely looking at approval ratings by party?)
     
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    Well, your analogy fails in that Lincoln was actually making our country a better place; Obama is running it into the ground.
     
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    Tough to define but I know it when I see it, and Obama's divisiveness is far and away worse than anything seen in this nation arguably in our 200+ year history.

    Although I must confess he is far less divisive today than he was when he took office. As more and more time goes by, we see more and more Americans united in the knowledge of just how horrible his policies have been for America. So he does have at least that going for him.
     
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    that is fn hilarious


    the country has been being driven into the ground long before obama took office, but keep hating him cause he can't deliver on his promise to fix the unfixable p.o.s.
     
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    From the myopic right maybe so, but for many he is doing ok despite a very contentious and innneffective congress...
     
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    So nothing measurable, just your opinion...

    ...no evidence that the divisiveness is bad...

    ... and no evidence that he is more divisive than his predecessor, let alone any President in history.

    Also, is the alleged divisiveness primarily his doing, primarily the state of politics today (as patters alluded to) or a fairly even mix?
     
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    What does the thread title have to do with the OP?
     
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    This is the guy who is on record calling Jimmy Carter the worst POTUS.

    Ipso facto, I wouldn't listen to a single thing he says with respect to our great nation's history.
     
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    Carter was an abject failure as a President, Obozo may be worse however. :eek:
     
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    I suppose this would be a Captain Renault moment.

    Carter was an average President.

    Obama's term(s) are incomplete.

    Bush was worse than both.

    None are in the bottom three worst US presidents.
     
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    #75 Jersey

    It's a joke. A state with Republican governor has a budget surplus and is giving some of that to state workers as a bonus.
     
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    Touche, salesman :)
     
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    Daniels should have given the money back to taxpayers rather than give bonuses.
     

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