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  1. Gronkandez

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    Who saw this coming? :rolleyes:

    Dez Bryant - Dallas Cowboys - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com
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    Anyone care to call any of the talking heads who lambasted the Pats for trading out of the pick Dallas used on this clown and ask them if they care to rethink their sentiments? I know McCourty was a big disappointment last year but I'd rather have a guy like him over Dez Bryant.
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    Dez Bryant will likely go down as another vastly talented underachiever who was too screwed up in the head to perform consistently on or off the field.

    Ironically, Jerry Jones jumped at this guy in part because he had an over a decade long regret for not drafting Randy Moss because he feared Moss would be a a head case underachiever who would constantly be getting in trouble. Looks like he got the Randy Moss he feared he would get after all.

    I do think it is funny that the spin this offseason by the Cowboys is that Bryant has finally grown up and ready to dedicate himself to football.
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    The talking heads? How about half this board who blasted Belichick for not drafting Bryant. It seemed that there were most of this board who felt the Pats blew it by drafting McCourty over Bryant or supreme bust Jerry Hughes.
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    My thoughts exactly. Somehow I always thought it was gonna go down like this for Bryant.
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    Dez Bryant was arrested Monday for pushing his mother, a source tells ESPN Dallas.

    What a guy! I'm glad I 'talked myself out of this guy' during the year he was drafted. At the very least the trading down part by the Pats worked out very well. We'll see about McCourty.

    Dez Bryant - Dallas Cowboys - 2012 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com
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    I actually recall most of the board scratching their heads over drafting a CB so high after Day 1 with nothing else having shaken out yet. The majority of that group, myself included, we're EXTREMELY pleased with that draft after it was over.

    The most vocal Dez Bryant activist that I remember was The Riddler.
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    BB tries to look into the football heart of potential draft picks. Leadership and a passion for the game will trump skills if there is a deadlock.
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    Is pushing off a Point Of Emphasis this year with the Dallas Police?
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    Two years later, the Mccourty/Bryant debate is still tied IMO, with a bunch of ? marks on each side.
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    Yep... that's the thread where people actually started complaining about the phrase "in a vacuum", if I remember correctly.
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    There was a large vocal group of people who wanted Bryant over McCourty. Many people were happy with the draft overall, but that is different than happy with the first pick.

    Every year there is a group that complain the Pats should have taken so and so over who they drafted. Most notably Clay Matthews. The difference between the Dez Bryant crowd and the Clay Matthews crowd is that Clay Matthews turned into a stud and Bryant hasn't.
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    ... are you being sarcastic? If not, I'm having trouble figuring out what's fantastic about this.
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    That's how I remember it too, and it's worth noting that Riddler finds a random draft binky--usually an overrated college player with major character concerns--to go off the deep end for pretty much every year. Before Dez it was Rey Maualuga.

    Also, I was one of those people who wasn't a big fan of the the McCourty pick in of itself, but came around on the draft as a whole once the rest of it played out. That was the first year where the second round was moved from day one, IIRC, so having an entire day to fixate entirely on one round was a new phenomenon. A lot of us admittedly didn't handle it very well. That said, Dez Bryant had nothing to do with it, for me. A guy who can't keep his head screwed on straight in college will rarely do better after he becomes a multimillionaire.
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    oh nay nay. Dez would suck here.
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    Well...McCourty was basically like a 1000 yard receiver for the opposing team last season so it's pretty tied. Actually McCourty has about 80 yards more than Bryant.
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    Another very disturbing story, is it just me or has this past year had way more than the norm in the sports realm
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    Guy is such a huge talent. Too bad he's as big a headache, too
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    Talking Heads heck; there were a lot of people on this forum who loved Dez and killed me when I said he was not even on the Patriots board.
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    A CB that was a rookie all pro in his rookie season and among the worst CBs in the league as a sophomore, vs. A WR who improved rookie to sophomore year (68 catches 950 yards 9 TDs), but has problems showing up in the second half, and has off field troubles.

    If Dez wasn't such a dumbass I'd give the edge to him, but then people around here would start their Mccourty defending. We'll see whos the better player on the field in their 3rd season.
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    And absolutely everybody saw it coming. Even Jerry Jones, except he was still so obsessed over Randy Moss that he somehow talked himself into the idea that uber-talented wideout & headcase are synonymous.
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    Dez will be lucky to play in 12 games. Hopefully McCourtey is 100% entering camp and stays healthy.

    Either way I'll take the guy who shows up to work everyday over a super talented head case who seems to find trouble around every corner, any day. Don't need those distractions.
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    Putting aside the McCourty comparisons, I think you're missing a big issue with Dez that would have made him a particular problem with the Patriots: attitude. Or to put it another way, "football character" rather than off-field personal character.

    Before the draft, there were lots of concerns about Bryant's maturity and work ethic, and he's done little since to dispel them. He looks to me like a guy who is very insecure and so constantly tries to act like he's special. He's determined to be respected, but working to earn respect is too close to an admission of weakness. Whether it's refusing to carry a vet's pads at his rookie practices, or trying to buy his way to the front of a long line at the mall, or just not believing he needs to put in extra hours training, it's always the same pattern.

    I really don't think it would have gone well for him in New England.
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    The point is,no matter who the Pats picked at that spot, they'd STILL be dogged for not taking Bryant...THAT has always been the crybaby argument.."we should have taken Dez Bryant!!Waaaaaaaaaah!~!!"...all the whiny little tear jerkers don't care who it is we took only that we didn't take the superduperest goo gee gaa gaa WR in the draft..a fantasy football "GOD!!!!!!".

    This same crap is gonna happen all over again this year...some nitwit is going to post that we should have taken some head case physical specimen instead of Chandler Jones or Hightower.,..it's a lock...the first sack that Coples gets there'll be ten threads here crying "I told you we should have traded up!!!!" I will never understand why some people are NEVER satisfied, even when there is NOTHING that can ever be done to undo what they so desperately want in HINDSIGHT. It's ridiculous...like a virus or something.
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    Am I a bad person for laughing?

    I mean if it was the Jets, no: if it was the Patriots, yes.

    But I'm absolutely neutral on Dallas.
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    I was mostly joking because of how much of an idiot he is, kind of like when Cromartie has another kid. It's disturbing but also kind of funny.

    I do have some sympathy for Bryant though. His mom went to jail for dealing crack. I can't imagine he had much stability growing up or many decent role models.
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    Those same posters tend to be wrong every year, though, and should be brushed aside regardless.
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    You guys are probably right that he would be a bad fit her due to attitude, but remember he is only 23 and Randy was a nutjob at that age, he even grew up for three years. :D

    I just feel it is a worthy discussion and debate going forward depending on how McCourty recovers. Don't you ask "what if" it was Dez Bryant instead of Deion across Welker vs. the Jets in 2010 or the Giants in 2011?
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