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Anger among Americans is building, what does it mean?

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  1. PatriotsReign

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    In my day to day life over the past 3 months, I've noticed more and more people angrily discussing the direction this nation is heading.

    I hear it among my friends and my family, in the news and on the airwaves and it's gaining momemtum.

    What do you think it means?
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    I don't think the anger is any more palpable or significant than it was three months ago or when Bush was president.

    It's all the economy. If the economy were roaring along, no one would have any problems with the direction of the country.
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    Find some new friends, meet new people... not everyone shares this dim view, it is not that bright... but it is not that dark.. this is just another anecdotal post of your observation.
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    I disagree, I think it's as much "Economic policy" as it is the economy. But if the economy was booming, Obama wouldn't be spending so much....or would he?

    He does't have to spend to get us out of recession...just an FYI
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    The anger is buiding at this very moment...I can feel it, I can see it and it can actually taste it.

    If you can't, you don't get out enough!
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    If you want to provide some alternative policies that you feel would've prevented the economy from collapsing entirely, please feel free to do so.

    Until that time, all you have is hollow criticism.
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    It means people want the economy to turn around more quickly. So far Obama, compared to Reagan (who inherited a lesser recession) is making progress faster than Republican economic policies did. People were angry back then, but the really scary one's had their man in office, so that tamed them. Now that's not the case. Fortunately, though, only a very small number of these people are angry enough to react in criminal ways.
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    It means people watch too much TV or that you are engaging in a nice piece of agitprop.
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    If I may so bold as to simply say "THE SH!T IS HITTING THE FAN"

    IT SEEMS THE MESSIAH ISN'T THE MESSIAH AFTER ALL
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    We're not discussing ways we "could have" prevented this crisis.

    You haven't written anything with specifics Jack. I said "We don't have to try to spend our way out of this recession"

    My suggestion? Let the economy hit bottom on it's own. That's what recessions are for. Believe it or not, recessions are necessary & good for our economy. They restore balance and then confidence and provide a stable foundation upon which to grow. But thats been written in hundreds of books, so you much already know this, don't you?

    I'm not talking about what was spent to prevent the financial infrastructure from collapsing, I'm referring CURRENT spending....

    how much more are you willing to spend?

    Do you have children Jack?
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    So you're willing to risk another Great Depression in order to prove a point you read in a book? Gotcha.

    And what do you suppose would have been the reaction had Obama done nothing, as you suggest, and sat idly by while the economy crashed?
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    Do you think FDR's public works & other programs got us out of the depression?

    I'd rather save capitalism than lower ourselves to a European style economy, wouldn't you?

    I agree if he had done nothing, people would have screamed, but arent you the one who wrote people don't know what's best for them?

    Besides, he does have the option of cutting back on spending, rather than stopping all together.
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    This is not a good path because your best argument is that if FDR's social policies didn't get us out, the massive spending associated with the war must have. Either way spending is spending.

    Nice hyperbolic false choice. And I prefer American pseudo-socialist policies of the 50s and 60s. You know, the heyday of the unions and the USA?

    That would depend on what the administration thinks is the minimum amount of spending required to turn the economy around.
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    I don't think it's just about Obama. People were very dissatified with the Bush administration and they really wanted change. Now they have been taken hostage by the democats and their socialist agenda. No one feels represented by their government Rep. or Dem. The Government spends and spends nd their still stuck up against it with bills rising and an unclear job market. Tough times.....
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    I think people are angry because Obama promised everyone the world and hasn't delivered on hardly any of his promises. We're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan, the economy still sucks, we still have warrantless wiretapping, other countries still hate us, Iran is still developing nukes, no peace in the Middle East and Club Gitmo is still up and running. He is almost a full 25% into his term and has nothing to show for it. People are getting a solid dose of reality.
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    This whole thread is an excellent example of petitio principii. There's a reason it's a fallacy, folks.
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    Swear to god, people want bad things to happen... just so they can say told you so.

    Depends how you view the world, I am out every day.. most people are making eye contact, talking about the holidays... life is for the most part pretty good.

    The nice thing about recessions is that they end...
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    I've been saying the exact same thing about the left wing for the past 5 years. People want bad things to happen and they wanted the President to fail so they could say "I told you so" and get their own guys in office.
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    So....do you think they have a number? I doubt it.
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    Assuming the original point of the OP....why cant you just say it in everyday language? Writing "the petitio princpii" is such a waste of time. But I'd bet you enjoy it my geeky pal!:p;)

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