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  1. RyanTheColtsFan

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    If I think the Colts play better on the road than in the Dome, should I root for NE Sunday night? :)

    I would expect a game similiar to the Broncos on Sunday. Seems like we've played a million times over the years cause i've made a ton of these Colts/Pats threads.

    Post ya thoughts.
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    Tell me you you didn't get alittle nervous looking at that game last night. Before last night the running game was your biggest worry, now.....

    And don't forget:
    Denver owns the Pats
    Colts own Denver
    Pats own Colts
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    I dont put much stock into the Vikes. But it was impressive. The Pats will always scare me as long as BB is HC and Brady is behind center.
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    if anything we have seen so far...one week is different from another , for the pats the denver game and then the cincy game is one example and for the colts, the tennese game and then the denver game is another...i personally dont put too much stock to what the pats did against the vikings but it certainly is pleasing to see then throw the the ball efficiently.
    I think ryan, the most cliched stat -"turnovers" will define the game sunday, i expect the colts to move the ball well and hopefully the pats can too...iam just curious how our defense plays...we have played coverage a lot this seasons but colts lead the league in 3rd down conversions so it should be interesting...
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    Even though i would have liked to see the running game more, with a short week to prepare for the colts, i like that both of our backs will be nicely rested and ready to go.
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    The game on Sunday should be another instant classic, two Hall of Fame QBs, a battle for first place, what more can you ask for.

    I think in another couple of seasons Manning will be seen as the best passer in the history of the game, the conversation will go how did such great quarterbacks such as Marino, Manning, etc. never win a Superbowl?
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    To paraphrase Parcells, I think it's a little premature to start moving Manning to Canton.

    Compare him to Bledsoe as a prolific passer. Will Manning surpass Bledsoe's gaudy numbers? Maybe. Will Bledsoe make it to the Hall? Doubtful. If Manning can't win the big game and he doesn't exceed Bledsoe's numbers, he won't see the Hall either.
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    Ok i am not a great fan of Manning, but he will EASILY make it into the hall of fame. He will surpass almost every passing record.
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    i dislike the colts but if manning doesnt go the hall then so shouldnt marino...if he just plays 5 yrs he is going to break all statistical records....there may be reasons to dislike him but he is a great player ..just stating my opinion
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    The Patriots will come out with different looks on both sides of the ball. the Colts will come out and do what they always do.

    It should be interesting. I'm not going to make any predictions as I feel punchy after being up til 2AM last night. Take this day off and then start thinking about the Colts.

    Well, almost.
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    Let's wait until he plays those five years out and then see.

    Manning could melt down like Kurt Warner for all you know -- if say Harrison and Wayne left for some reason. Or he could get injured, etc.
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    Gentleman, a little realisty for a minute.

    I know people love using the phrase let's not put him in Canton yet.

    But in all reality, both Manning and Brady's spots are being cleaned and prepped as we speak!
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    If he melts down now, he goes to Canton anyway. His career to date is more than enough in my opinion to see him in the Hall, probably on a first ballot.
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    Exactly.

    Manning is a first ballot Hall of Famer, so is Brady, otherwise they should not even have a HOF.
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    sure ..can happen to anyone, hypothetically can happen to brady too...lets give him props for what he has done...heck...this game against the colts this week is a game simply because of him , no one else on the colts really makes this matchup as competitive...
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    Two great teams, clearly. I'll be surprised if the Colts win though. Our pass defense is a little suspect but pretty good especially as we don't play man to man too much against the Colts. But with our passing game coming on and the difference in running games (combining offense and defense), I really think we're just the better team right now.
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    Hey Ryan, getting back on track.....I think that it'll be another great game between these two teams. I also think that Manning might be a tad dirtier come the 4th quarter, than he was in Denver, as he gets reacquainted with Green,Warren,Rosie et all. Somehow I doubt that Reggie Wayne will feel quite so lonely during his routes as he did last Sun!
    Hope you enjoy the game, and see you on the flip side!
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    Manning could retire in the middle of next week's game and still make the Hall.
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    As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less if Peyton gets into the Hall. What I care about is the Patriots winning. If Peyton breaks every record in the books -- and adds NEW records that haven't even been thought of yet -- I say, good for him.

    But if the Patriots keep winning championships, setting the bar for team results in an era when the gods of individual stats run so rampant, I'll be a happy camper.

    As far as I'm concerned BB, Pioli, and company have injected some sanity in the modern NFL game, and that's a lasting contribution, far more important than any number of gaudy individual stats.

    A great player may be great -- and good for him -- but that's only one man out of 54. To consistently put together a great team requires a higher level of genius. Btw, Red Auerbach exemplified that in his day with the Celts, may he rest in peace.



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    Yes, he'll make the hall for largest body of annoying commercials. But, maybe hanging it up this year isn't such a bad idea. He's had 9 years. He's tried but, just can't play under real pressure. Perhaps it's time to pass the torch to Eli and be put out to pasture. :p
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    nicely put.
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    Brady has three rings. What does Manning have? Not even a passing record.
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    If he did it would be an injustice and only because of media ballwashing.
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    You can't go wrong with that !!

    And if you do, welcome back from the dark side.



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    I wish he would. Then we wouldn't have to see him on every 2nd commercial.
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    This sounds to me like your already lining up your excuses for the Colts if they lose next week - 'that's ok - I wanted them to lose so they can play on the road in the playoffs' - what a load of BS. Didn't we just spend the last 5 years hearing that if the Colts could ever get home field advantage they'd finally win a title, because they are so unbeatable in their little controlled environment dome? Then they showed the world just how pathetic chokers they actually are when they totally choked again to a clearly not that great steeler team. (The pats would've crushed Pittsburgh if they had beaten Denver) Now you want to claim the Colts are better off going to Foxboro, in the cold and snow in the playoffs because 'they play better on the road' ?
    Hah hah hah hah - you can't even keep your excuses straight anymore! That's sooooo funny. I can't imagine you actually believe that. I think you just watched the Patriots look like a well oiled machine, without any weak links, and with incredible physicality and an obvious advantage in game-planning and scheming, and you realized there was a very good chance your fairies of stats and regular season blowouts of the titans and texans could very well have their lunch handed to them again on national television, and you want to have some way of claiming it doesn't bother you! Deny it all you want. It's pretty obvious. There's no way you'd prefer to come here in the playoffs. Well, The pats are still coming together, despite how well they played last night, and they may not beat the colts next sunday night, but I'll tell you this, come playoff time, they will be very, very hard to beat, and I think your best hope is for the broncos to play them before the colts do, and hope the broncos can knock them out before they knock you out. You never know of course, but I think the Colts fans concerns with the pats this year should have gone up much higher after seeing them overcome their only concern last night.
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    Same run defense, I hope. We've got 2 RBs and they both want to pad their stats. Evans too. And Faulk.

    Sounds good to me.:D :bricks:
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    You are letting Manning's matchup issues with NE cloud your views of Manning. He was a better Drew Bledsoe up until 2003, and then he made the leap. You would be hard pressed to find any 3-4 year run by a QB in the history of the game as impressive as the one Manning is on now.

    If you have the 2004/5 3 games to glory, rewatch the AFCDG with the Colts. Manning far outplayed Brady in the game, but Manning's receivers kept screwing up. Drops by Pollard, Clark and Stokely as well as pitiful efforts and poor play calling killed that team. But Manning really wasn't bad at all until the 4th quarter when the game was essentially over.

    Manning issues with NE have stemmed from the fact that Manning is much worse at post snap reads than presnap and he doesn't pass well at all on the move. Plus, NE is at their best when a team's offense is almost entirely based on timing. Teams like Carolina give NE fits, because they are really good at just making stuff up when the play breaks down. Indy doesn't do this nearly as well, so NE presses the WRs and hits the TEs/RBs to disrupt the timing.

    Just because NE has played well against Indy doesn't mean that Indy and Manning aren't very good in their own right. If Manning isn't a first ballot HOFer, I will eat my shorts.
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    ...with a little Kool-Aid thrown in.
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