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An Athiest and a Muslim Confrontation at a Halloween Parade - A Judge's Ruling

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    Judge rules against atheist attacked in costume - ABC27 WHTM

    END OF STORY?

    No ...
    Judge Matan is Muslim ... He read from the Quran during the trial ... The Obama administration would support Judge Matan's ruling ...

    Criminalizing Intolerance: Obama Administration Moves Forward On United Nations Resolution Targeting Anti-Religious Speech « JONATHAN TURLEY

    What do you think?

    Personally I kind of see both sides here (nothing new for me) ... on the one hand our 1st Amendment rights should always be protected. On the other hand the killing over religious differences prevalent in some other countries could make it's way here if we don't find some common ground. How to differentiate between one's public opinion vs one's inflammatory public opinion. The zombie pope not a factor in the story yet the zombie Muhammed was? One incites rage and the other incites nothing in this instance. Their religion is Islam ... their culture is Muslim and yes it is a way of life ... not just a religion.

    1st Amendment rights vs public inflammatory religious hate speech.

    A future trending and big topic our country will need to discuss. Our country will need to adapt to it's growing Muslim population but how it should adapt will be very interesting.
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    Re: An Athiest - A Muslim - A Halloween Parade

    Pennsylvania Judge Throws Out Charge For Harassing Atheist While Calling The Victim A Doofus « JONATHAN TURLEY

    Heavily edited to keep it small ... better to click the link and read it.

    Again ... what do you think of the judge's decision?
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    Scary stuff.

    Imagine what this guy would have done to Larry Flynt. First public stoning, I'm guessing.
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    Re: An Athiest - A Muslim - A Halloween Parade

    horrible decision

    People don't have the right not to be offended. And when offended, they don't have the right to reort to physical violence.

    I'd have far more sympathy if Perce had singled out his attacker for being Muslim, or something like that. But just because the guy is oversensitive doesn't mean he can react however he wants.

    Martin also should have recused himself, imo. Not simply because he's Muslim, but because he displayed his bias resulting from being Muslim when he tried to rationalize the attacker's behavior andd when he then referred to what would happen under sharia.
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    The atheist need to understand that when you take to mocking religions that if you mock Islam you run the risk of being assaulted or worse, they should stick to mocking Christians.

    The Judiciary is scared of Muslims hence the double standard.

    Wonder if Obama will apologize for the behavior of the atheist.
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    Re: An Athiest - A Muslim - A Halloween Parade

    While certainly not in the "best" taste to mock anyone really, you are certainly able to do so under our laws, up to your mockery impacts the rights of another person no? Assaulting anyone is a violation of our laws.

    This is a perfect example of the case JackBauer has brought up in the past regarding religious rules being trumped by laws of the land.

    We have been told that illustrating Muhammad is against Islamic law and there are allowance of violence toward the culprit of said crime. However the laws of our country supersede those.

    The Muslim man should have been charged and found guilty of a crime. While the Atheist certainly should have known their outfit could have been seen by some as bad taste or "offensive", being assaulted isnt a protected response.

    Certainly a really bad decision
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    Re: An Athiest - A Muslim - A Halloween Parade

    Should Christians also understand that when they mock other religions?


    Where was evidence of "fear" here? Or any sort of widespread double standard?

    Or are you just making stuff up again, b/c it involves Islam?


    Was the atheist a US soldier in a Muslim nation we invaded?
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    btw, the reason the suit was dismissed was actually lack of evidence, not the statements about whether the atheist was outside his first amendment rights

    The police officer said that the attacker admitted hitting Perce the night of the attack, but no statement was taken and under oath the attacker denied it.

    this is where the judge's comments come into play for me -- I suspect his own biases led him to this conclusion, and I think one has to at least wonder. And that wouldn't be the case if we hadn't heard all this other nonsense from the judge.
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    I have a quick comment "don't f-ck with their Koran"
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    Re: An Athiest - A Muslim - A Halloween Parade




    Examples? Or making things up....




    Well none of the Christians observing the parade assaulted the atheist guy, and if they had the judge IMO would be hostile towards the atheist and giving the Christian a pass, feel free to keep you head buried in the sand.



    No I leave making stuff up to you.




    Was the atheist a US soldier in a Muslim nation we invaded?[/QUOTE]
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    I have another Comment, more of a question, why does America's Left Wing Liberal always try to find a way to Defend The Actions Of Muslims while constantly trashing other religions, is it fear, is it because Islam Hates America, will all Left Wing Liberals someday stop eating Pork Chops.

    We all saw the way Americans stand and Praise Jesus, we all saw how they raise their voices and sing their Love for God, the whole country watched American Christians pour their hearts out to The Lord Jesus we watched it live on TV the Day Whitney Houston was rememberd in Her Baptist Church, why do American Left Wing Liberals look down on those people "who believe" why God, why.
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    Examples of what -- Christians mocking other religions? really?

    Please confirm that you don't think Christians ever mock other religions, I want to make sure there are no misunderstandings here. Because if you're really going to claim that, it will show just how completely misguided, or just disingenuous, you are.


    Is that supposed to be evidence of fear, or is that supposed to be a double standard? because it's neither.

    So try to think it through, and get back to me.


    please translate into English.


    ah, yes, your favorite retort when you don't actually have any substance in your responses to people who don't share your hatred of Muslims


    Oh, 13, are you going to pull my hair next?

    If you want to show where I've made anything up, feel free to try -- but you're perfectly aware that you will fail.
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    What do Atheists in general think or have to say about The Islamic Religion, we very seldom hear anything about that-------:confused:
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    why would you hear much about it?
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    I don't know, there are Atheists on this forum I was just wondering if they feel the same about Islam as they do about The Christian, would they Shun Mohammad as they do Jesus.......:confused:

    Do they hold the Koran in the same light as they do The Bible?
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    "shun"?

    You seem to like using words incorrectly.
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    Well, atheists don't seem to cuddle up to Jesus now do they?

    FORGIVE THEM FATHER FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO

    HE WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN ME SHALL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE

    GOD WILLING WE WILL SEVER THE HEAD OF THE INFIDEL DOG THAT SPEAKETH FOUL AGAINST THE GOD

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    Who cuddles up to Jesus?

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