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    Rather than clutter this page with several threads, thought it best to have one multi-purpose thread for today's happenings. Please feel free to add anything you hear or see that's draft related. Post the sources if you're able.

    First up:

    Cowboys trade Fasano, Ayodele to Dolphins

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    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2008/04/draft_update.html?nav=rss_blog
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    Re: Late breaking draft news and/or rumors thread...

    Kansas City is looking to draft two O-linemen, two CB's, two D-linemen, and players at other positions with their mass of picks.
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    Re: Late breaking draft news and/or rumors thread...

    If KC plays their cards right (which they wont) they could easily use this draft to build there team to be a contender.
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    Schefter: C.Long #2, Matt Ryan #3

    Per NFL Network. Falcons will go with Matt Ryan even with Dorsey on the board and the Raiders have their choice of 3 guys they love: Dorsey, McFadden and Gholston.

    What does this do to the draft now?
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    Re: Schefter: C.Long #2, Matt Ryan #3

    Well it's not a lock yet... but I'd say the Raiders don't go McFadden and take one of the defensive players.

    I think there is a real good possibility it comes down to the Jets and their "Patriots obsession" as one article called it. Gholston/McFadden could be there, and they'll have to make up their mind. But then again, Pats might have totally different plans we don't know yet...
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    Re: Schefter: C.Long #2, Matt Ryan #3

    Well, if this happens, then the Raiders could select Dorsey, but it seems they've got McFadden in their sites, and Gholston has the Combine numbers Al Davis loves.

    Kansas City wants to trade down, and pick up even more picks (they want 15 picks total, and I think they currently have 13). So, they could trade down with someone who's interested in selecting Gholston, Dorsey, or McFadden.

    McShay said he's heard rumors of the Patriots being interested in trading up to 5th overall, so they can select Gholston. I'd rather see NE trade down, and if you ask me, McShay's not really all that reliable either, so who knows.
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    Re: Schefter: C.Long #2, Matt Ryan #3

    If accurate, the Raiders should be able to extract a king's ransom for Dorsey.
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    Wow. This changes everything. Now it might go...

    1. JLong
    2. CLong
    3. Ryan
    4. McFadden
    5. Dorsey
    6. Gholston
    7. (trade) Ellis
    8. Clady
    9. Mendenhall/Harvey
    10. Mayo
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    Chris Long taken by Rams ESPN says
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    I think this is real good for us. With the first three confirmed, there is a good chance that Dorsey/Gholston/McFadden will drop to us.
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    No more of a chance than yesterday. Still need the Chiefs likely to take someone outside of this group. Which to me only happens if Dorsey goes to the Raiders.
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    Gholston could be the slider?

    Rotoworld:
    While NFL Network's Mike Mayock suspects the Patriots will try to leapfrog the Jets with the intention of selecting pass rusher Vernon Gholston, other outlets speculate that Gholston could be the draft tumbler.
    Gholston would have to fall to No. 5 for the leapfrog scenario to even have a possibility. Several outlets are reporting a draft morning buzz that Gholston could tumble all the way out of the Top 10 because of concerns that he disappears on game film and may be a workout wonder. Todd McShay has been harping on this for weeks. For now, file it all under more post-draft hype.

    I've said that I thought he was a risk in the top 10, and seemed like more of a top 12-15 prospect to me, but we'll see, and if he somehow lands on the Patriots roster I'll be perfectly fine with it.
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    Ughhhh. Not a fan of picking Gholston at all.
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    ESPN says the Raiders are leaning heavily towards Darren McFadden... dumbass pick if you ask me, but that's the Raiders. Russell and then McFadden... eek.
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    Tom Curran's the man!

    Assuming today's reports are accurate, let's all give a huge hand to Tom Curran who broke the top 2 five days ago -- only to be greeted by a chorus of "nah, it's all just a Parcells misinformation campaign."

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    If Gholston is there at seven and IF we select him, that I would not have any concerns at all about any disappearing act during games or anything else.

    IF we make this pick - than I am certain he will turn out to be an absolute beast - NE never gets it wrong with their #1's - especially one selected this high. Take that to the bank...

    I also would not be surprised, if they feel Gholston is indeed that good - to see them trade up to 5 and leapfrog the Jests.

    I would be a happy guy to see Gholston knocking opposing QB;s on the ass next year. He be an integral part of our rotation from day one and become that final piece in our "D" that was missed last year - especially after the injury bug hit.
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    i accurately picked the top 4 picks about 6 months ago.

    everyone said i was crazy.

    Who's crazy now?
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    my opinion has been that there is a lot of gamesmanship going on between the Patriots and the Jets. The Patriots are feigning interest in players like McFadden and Gholston IMO to get the Jets to trade up to get a player they would have gotten anyway.

    The Pats want Mayo IMO maybe Rivers, but not McFadden. it is very interesting no doubt.
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    I think you can teach pursuit and you can teach someone to not disappear and take plays off. Now you probably can't teach that to all players, but if the Pats take Gholston, and I hope they do if he is there at 7, then I'd confidently say that BB thinks he can teach Gholston that stuff and he'd make an excellent Patriot.
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    Just heard an interesting tidbot on the NFL NEtwork. The Ravens are talking with St. Louis about moving up to #2 to take Matt Ryan before the Falcons do. This would be a dream scenario for the Pats because if they did, then the Pats could trade with Atlanta for Chris Long!

    If the draft falls Long, Long, Ryan, McFadden, Doresy, Gholston then the Pats are screwed. Ellis is a great DL, but no one is going to trade up for him.
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    Um . . . . Great DL . . . no one is going to trade up for him . . . do you sense the incongruity there ?

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    Gamesmanship. The Rams know that ATL is saying they want Dorsey, but if they havent made a call to the rams about trading up 1 pick(for a 3rd, they have 2)they KNOW they are taking Ryan. The rams now call the Ravens to talk about a trade....only makes sense. But if they do get an offer from the Ravens it doesnt mean they dont just go back to the Falcons with that offer...and ATL can top it. But what would it take to get up to #3?? Both 3s? I dont think we want to give up our 2.....who knows.
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    well then the pats should just stall and wait until they hit a slot that benefits them.

    Isnt' that how it works...? they can stall and let other teams pick and then just pick when they want (like at 13 for example)

    That would be hilarious, and transfer every last non-Pats fan into a Pats Hater for sure.
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    Brian Billick said that he doesn't think the Ravens have the assets to move up to #2 without giving up too much because their 3rd rounder is untradeable.

    However, the Pats do have a nice 3rd rounder courtesy of the Raiders, #69. Maybe we might be involved in making this deal happen for the Ravens and get some Ravens player in return.
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    Wait till @ 3:20 to toot your horn Keegs ... :p
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    Chris Mortensen: Baltimore could dangle the #8 pick and Terrell Suggs to St. Louis for #2.
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    I don't buy it for a second!

    If the Falcons truly wanted Ryan, why would they announce it with pick #2 right ahead of them, still not officially chosen and in the books.

    They know that the Ravens have a trouser tent for Ryan, and a rookie head coach willing to blow his wad on a shiney new QB.

    IMHO, Atlanta wants Dorsey, but they figure that Ellis and an extra #2 would be a better "value" if they made the trade to move down ;)
    If not, then they guarantee that Dorsey doesn't get taken at #2, and falls to them for sure.

    This is the right information to drop at the right time to drop it.
    Have we forgotten who Atlanta general manager Thomas Dimitroff studied under? :bricks:
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