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    Alex Smith adapting to the Patriot Way by Jeff Howe of NESN

    Hearing him use phrases such as "get better every day" and "just trying to be a part", it sounds like Smith has been with the Patriots for years rather than a couple of months.
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    I really like the pick up of Smith. I'm not quite sure why everyone seems to be down on him. Baker seems to be a nice redzone target and Watson has never really proven to be much of anything... at least not anywhere near the expectations that were set once Graham left. Smith's extremely versatile and I can see him blowing away from the pack of TEs we have once the season gets going.
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    I see the loss of TE Graham unavoidable as it was from a cap 'value' standpoint as contributing to that awfull day in February which can never be mentioned. In contrast, my view is that this season's TE crop has the potential to address that offensive achilles heel.
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    Yes. Graham might have been lost for financial reasons, but I bet that Kraft would pay the million(s) extra needed if he could do it all again.
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    Indeed, I agree. Losing Graham was big, but that's all hindsight for most people.
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    Well, certainly for some, anyway.
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    He was a loss, but not as big as other losses. I doubt that Kraft would re-do anything. When you develop any working process, there are bound to be some decisions on the wrong side of the line. That is inherent in any good process (if you do not sometimes go over the live, you are operating to far from it - you want to be right up against the cutoff point).

    Smart business owners have faith in their system and know that second guessing leads to a dissolutionn of the system. Not that you don't readjust your system, but that is looking to the future. It's a loser's game to think about going back and re-doing (coulda woulda shoulda syndrome)
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    Don't forget the garbage that Graham said about the Pats within the last year. My guess is he wasn't into the Patriots Way and they had to part with him, talent and all.
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    I really wasn't comparing his loss to any other or trying to suggest that it was one of the most important. Nonetheless, it was a big loss. We still haven't found a TE to date that could block in the running game the way he could. Also, I wasn't suggesting that Kraft should be second-guessing anything. Like I said, the importance of Graham is all hindsight. Even when we let him walk I didn't think it was as important as I do now. We've done okay without him, though.
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    He was a blocking TE. He was a great blocker, but you can find blocking only TEs. He sucked as a receiver. How many years did he lead the league for drops by a TE? How come we aren't throwing this guy under the bus like we do all our other former players. He isn't even starting in Denver.
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    He has started all 31 games that he's played in Denver in his two seasons there, and if finding "blocking only TEs" were so easy, the Patriots would have done so before now.

    As for people throwing him under the bus, that was done when he left.
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    They are trying to find the complete package--a great blocker who can run routes, separate from LBs, and great hands. Not an easy task. They haven't found a blocking only TE because they aren't looking for one.
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    I didn't say he was Tony Gonzalez, but he had talent. And you're right, he was a better blocker than he was a receiver. But I'd still take him back in a heartbeat if his asking price and attitude were right, wouldn't you?

    As far as throwing players under the bus, I never do that. I find homerism nauseating and you'll often find me here arguing against Pats fans who either see our team with rose colored glasses, or see everyone else as chumps. I also never hold it against someone for going where the money is. But that's just me, plenty of other people threw Graham under the bus when he was headed to Denver.
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    As a #1 TE, I'm sure they want someone with receiving and blocking skills, but I think Watson is more than capable of being their #1 TE. But if you want to see what they think of purely blocking tight ends down the dept chart, just look at Kyle Brady's stint with the team.
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    If he were paid like a blocking TE, in a freaking heartbeat.
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    You beat me to it. The Pats tried Kyle Brady as the blocking TE, but injuries cut that short. Sad b/c I was really excited about Kyle. Ah well. The Pats have not been able to find that blocking TE replacement, but I think one of the new additions will emerge this year as an effective blocker, though he still may not be as good as Graham in that particular area.
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    Is there any reason at all to think it was about money? A year before he left, everybody was saying that he wanted to go home to Denver to be near his family. Then the minute he hit free agency, he made a beeline to Denver as expected.

    It takes two to tango.
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    Precisely. All the other speculation is just drivel. The guy just wanted to go home.

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    Graham may be on move - The Boston Globe

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    KFFL - Daniel Graham, TE, Denver Broncos

    He signed a big contract with the Broncos because the Patriots weren't offering anything like that.

    ESPN radio: Graham-to-Broncos done deal - Projo Pats Blog
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    Wasn't this a salary cap issue more than an absolute dollar issue? Did Kraft save money that season by not paying Graham, or did they spend to the cap?
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