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  1. Harry Boy

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    Book Banning
    How will the Liberal Dip Sh!t Obama Groupies handle this one, THAT THING that Jug Ears has nominated to be a Supreme Court Justice says it's OK to Ban Books because the government won't enforce it, ha ha ha if Ann Coulter writes a book that that "Our Dear Leader Obama" doesn't like you can bet your a$s the Obama Government would BAN it the next day, the dirty bastards want Talk Radio Silenced right now.

    READ THE COMMENTS ON THIS ONE
    Breitbart.tv Kagan’s Own Words: It’s Fine If The Law Bans Books Because Government Won’t Really Enforce It
     
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    Harry Hysteria hits again.
     
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    What would the reaction be this morning from The Obama Media if Mitt Romney or god forbid Sarah Palin publicy said "it's ok to ban books"

    Oh Boy every squealing, spluttering, slobbering liberal in America would be setting themselves on fire.

    If a Conservative had said "it's ok to ban books" Imagine how many times the name "Hitler" would be brought up on MSNBC.
     
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    I don't recall too many fire deaths, do you, Harry?


    At some point in those fractious first days, Palin told the department heads they needed her permission to talk to reporters. "She put a gag order on those people, something that you'd expect to find in the big city, not here," says Naegele. "She flew in there like a big-city gal, which she's not. It was a strange time, and [the Frontiersman] came out very harshly against her."

    Stein says that as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." That woman, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire Baker for not giving "full support" to the mayor.[/quote]


    Read more: Mayor Palin: A Rough Record - TIME
     
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    At what point in the clip does she say "it's OK to ban books"?
     
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    It doesn't really matter that she doesn't say its ok to ban books Wolf pack will be along shortly to argue that just cause she didn't actually say doesn't mean that she doesn't think it.
     
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    Are you honestly equating a library deciding (or being told) not to carry a certain book with the government banning a book? Are you honestly saying those two concepts are the same?

    BTW, while I don't remember any self-immolation regarding Palin's comments, there certainly was a pretty big stink raised by the left regarding them. So Harry's point is accurate.
     
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    According to the quote (I didn't actually listen to the video) she said "it's fine if the law bans books." If that doesn't imply "it's OK to ban books" then I don't know what does. :confused: :confused:

    You people aren't even smart enough to mention the obvious counter-argument. You're trying to mince words and claim her statements do not imply "it's OK to ban books" which is ridiculous.

    But the obvious counter-argument is that as a lawyer making an argument in court, she may very well not have her personal opinion be the same as the one she is arguing. So stick with that instead of playing make believe like a 6 year old.
     
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    It probably doesn't matter much to Obama and his Groupies what she thinks or says as long as they have a "Female Minority" thats what they were really looking for.

    The last thing The Obama gang wants on the Supreme Court is a "White Bastard" that believes in "law and order" "enforcement of existing laws" "the constitution" and "the protection of america as it should be protected"

    The Obama Gang does want a Supreme Court Justice that is a far left wing liberal who will almost always want to "Jail The Cop" and "Turn The Crook Loose"
     
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    At no point. (Big surprise there, huh?)

    In fact, the clip isn't even about "book banning" at all. She was answering a question regarding the use of campaign books paid for by corporate funds.

    What she said was that it would be a good "test case" because no one's ever tried to stop them from doing it and if they did, the corporation which the were suing would have a good constitutational case protecting their right to write, publish and distribute such material.


    The argument that campaign books paid for by corporate funds could be banned was made by a deputy solicitor general five days after Kagan was confirmed. Bossie's group was the plaintiff in Citizens United v. FEC, a Supreme Court case dealing with the constitutionality of the Federal Elections Commission's decision that Citizens United could not air a movie advocating against Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy if that movie was paid for by federal funds. On March 24, 2009 -- five days after the Senate confirmed Kagan -- the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case. Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm Stewart stated during the oral argument that, in addition to a movie, the federal government could "prohibit the publication of [a] book using the corporate treasury funds" if that book ended by saying "vote for X."

    When the case was reargued, Kagan specifically argued that federal law had never banned books and likely could not do so. In June 2009, the Supreme Court decided to postpone its decision in Citizens United, asked the litigants to brief additional issues, and ordered the lawyers to reargue the case in September 2009. Kagan argued on behalf of the federal government. She stated that if the government tried to ban books under campaign finance laws, "there would be quite good as-applied challenge" to the law, meaning that the corporation attempting to publish the book would have a good constitutional case that the book couldn't be banned. Kagan later added: "[W]hat we're saying is that there has never been an enforcement action for books. Nobody has ever suggested -- nobody in Congress, nobody in the administrative apparatus has ever suggested that books pose any kind of corruption problem, so I think that there would be a good as-applied challenge with respect to that."


    On Fox, Bossie falsely suggests Kagan supports book banning | Media Matters for America

    What a bunch of made-up bu!! the right keeps trying to pass off as truth.

    I find it impossible to fathom how anyone can continue to link to a source such as Fox or Breitbart when they should know, from past experience, it's going to be easily refuted.
     
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    If the person deciding (and telling) the library to remove certain books from the shelves is the mayor and uses her position to threaten the librarian if she offers opposition, yeah, I do.

    What would you call it?

    Harry didn't have a point. Harry had a video clip taken totally out of context with a caption which was a direct lie.
     
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    You assume too much.
     
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    :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah: Go beat your wife and kids some more.
     
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    I watched it but didn't listen to it..........:D

    Drudge is still runnung this,
    Kagan's Own Words: It's Fine If Law Bans Books Because Government Won't Really Enforce It...
    DRUDGE REPORT 2010®

    If people like Pat Lahey support her she has to be "crap"
     
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    If you find where she says that in the clip you posted, just let me know, an I'll take the time to watch it then.

    On the other hand, if people like Jeff Sessions oppose her, she must be doing something right...
     
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    I see....so the truth is, you don't regard Jews as "white" people?
     
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    It depends on the book. If the book in question is patently and grossly offensive to community standards, I would call it common sense. If my town's mayor told the local library (which is supported by public funds) that he didn't want them carrying the writings of Fred Phelps, I would have no problem with that decision. Would you?

    But, at the same time, that doesn't mean I think his writings should be illegal to publish, disseminate and read. That's the pesky thing about freedom of speech: Even all those jerks you disagree with get to practice it. But that doesn't give them the right to put their stuff in my local library.

    Nevertheless, you're phenomenally ignorant to hold your belief. Assuming the story is true (there are contradicting reports), I have demonstrated there are miles of difference between telling a community library it can't hold a certain book versus telling the population it is illegal to own, possess or read that book.
     
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    Yes.

    Um, yes, actually it does. Because libraries are public it means they are subsidized by the government - you know the one - the government which is supposed to follow the consitution - the one that grants people freedom of speech. (Barring, of course, anything illegal such as child pornography or hate speech.)

    A public library is for the people - that means ALL the people - even the ones who want to read Fred Phelps.

    Moot point - You haven't "demonstrated anything;" Kagen never said anything remotely like what you're accusing her of saying - and if you had listened to the video instead of swallowing the trashy headline hook, line and sinker, you'd know that.

    Which means, you're not so smart, yourself.

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