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Al Quaeda Uses the Left's Vietnam Complex Against American Interests

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    http://www.ctc.usma.edu/aq/AFGP-2002-600053-Trans.pdf

    Download the complete PDF version of the correspondence, and go to page 22, you will find these comments:

    The Muslim victory in Somalia over the America has profound implications ideologically, politically, and psychologically that will require lengthy studies. You have the duty to record notes about these implications and keep them until it is time to study them in depth. Just the same, there is an important observation that we must not ignore, which is that the Americans were not defeated militarily in Somalia. Effective human and economic losses were not inflicted on them. All that happened was that the Somali battle revealed many of their psychological, political, and perhaps military weaknesses. The Somali experience confirmed the spurious nature of American power and that it has not recovered from the Vietnam complex. It fears getting bogged down in a real war that would reveal its psychological collapse at the level of personnel and leadership. Since Vietnam America has been seeking easy battles that are completely guaranteed.
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    You can see how AQ and it's all-too-willing allies in the mainstream press and the DNC are still effectively combating American interests via fickel American attitudes despite losing ground in Iraq. ​
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    I don't think that analysis is entirely correct, speaking of American tendencies in a general way like that. Under Clinton, in Somalia, American foreign policy was "ideologically, politically, and psychologically" susceptible. Under Bush, in Iraq, those weaknesses are limited to the political.
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    No question that AQ was quite 'surprised' when the US actually came after them in Afghanistan. Similarly, Saddam never believed that anyone would ever really act against him until it was too late. 9/11 really changed the mindset of some Americans.

    Sad to say, some folks ARE working 24/7 to insure that American foreign policy is again ideologically and psychologically susceptable.
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    Wow, it's scary how the radicals manipulate you. Just because Al Qaida says something, you believe it and want to do the opposite. If they're smart, they'll say something like, America will probably use nuclear weapons against Iran, then you'll be against using nuclear weapons against Iran. Most Democrats favor doing what is right, not doing things based on Al Qaida's "analysis," which is probably mostly designed to motivate its own people.
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    The above statement is reprehensible.
    Shame on you!
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    Lol, "AQ" didn't have any ground in Iraq to lose. That was the myth, remember?
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    Wait, unless you meant that by attacking Iraq, the US prevented Al Queda from establishing ground there, which is the same thing as them losing ground. You know, a penny saved is a penny earned. Wonder when we'll start hearing that out of the White House.
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    Nice sound bytes but flippant responses denying reality don't mean squat.
    It is important to understand your enemy and his perception of your own weaknesses. In this instance their analysis was correct. Stick with the facts and the issue not rhetoric designed to obfusticate the fact that the enemy has used media jujitsu successfully against the US. They have had success diacouraging us from the fight and portraying the war on terror as a quagmire.

    As to AQ in Iraq, Iraq has become flypaper for terrorists. Not very pleasent for the Iraqi people but helpful for parochial US interests.
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    ahhh..the flypaper strategy. Sorry Iraq, we know you weren't involved in 911, but we'll encourage the scum of the earth to launch terrorist attacks on your soil instead of Afghanistan's. That way, while you are distracted with all the bombings of your markets and mosques, we can build our bases and seize your oil. I get it.
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    And you wonder why there's lots of people in the world who hate us? Statements like that are locker room material for real terrorists at the recruitment offices in UAE and the KofSA.
    I thought we were in Iraq to help the Iraqis and bring them "freedom"? Freedom from WHAT? Life without terrorist bombings? Freedom from lack of medicine, electricity, water?
    "uh...thanks for the freedom, Joe. Now, you mind leaving? These terrorists are getting to be a real pain. You might want to tell that to the next country you invade...er...liberate from tyrrany. Thanks, again"
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    Exactly. If we usually filter propaganda coming from Washington, realizing it for what it is, why are we taking AQ propaganda at face value?
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    It's not a press release but a 'captured' document.
    You guys close your senses to any input that is dissonant to your established world view.
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    Pissah, like I said, and you chose to ignore, the document is probably motivational and political tool. That's how they're use it. That's how you're using it. That's how the Combating Terrorism Center at West Point is using it.

    My advice is: Siding with Al Qaida as a way of attacking liberals and Democrats is something you should try to avoid, and may explain why other righties aren't joining you here. You shouldn't trust ANYTHING those Al Qaida monsters say, even if it happens to suit your political purposes.
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    And the Army tells recruits that they'll be working with engineers in Texas, then ship them to Iraq with a gun they've never shot.

    Propaganda needn't be a press release. In fact, more often than not it's directed at recruits.

    How many people do you suppose would sign up with AQ if the document said that the American GIs were kicking their ass and the fight would be over soon?

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