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  1. Harry Boy

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    AIDS
    When it first started decent inteligent well meaning people were called Cruel & Racist by the Screwball Politically Correct Bastards, for what is written below Will They Now Put Their Pollitically Correct Heads In The Sand And Do It Again. (They Might Try To Blame Bush This Time)

    News Today:
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The AIDS virus invaded the United States in about 1969 from Haiti, carried most likely by a single infected immigrant who set the stage for it to sweep the world in a tragic epidemic, scientists said on Monday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/topN...?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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    You can't stop every foreigner from ever visiting our country. You know, when the first settlers cam here, they brought with them disease from Europe that wiped out, by some estimates, millions of American Indians. There's simply no way to prevent diseases that we're not aware of from finding their way from one country to another. So, what's your point? I still lay the blame on the AIDS crisis on Reagan, who pretended it did not exist while the disease was spreading into the blood supply. Thank God science now has it under control.
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    I don't think that "Immigrant" would have gotten through "The Old Ellis Island".

    I wonder what would happen if Bush wanted to give all foreigners a Physical?
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    The problem was when that guy came through, we didn't even know AIDS existed. There are probably other diseases in the country right now that we don't know about, and won't know about until they become more serious.
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    The Know It All Liberal Mind:

    The Liberal Type Politically Correct among us, people like Phil Donahue, Katie or Chris Matthews with their little twisted logic on Civil Liberties and all the rest of that Left Wing Crap won't ask or don't even want to know if the person entering our country from some far off Third World Stinkhole is sick or is carrying a deadley desease, these slobbering hand wringing fools don't want to Offend them.

    Now, would Katie, Phil or Chris allow somebody with AIDS, TB or the Measels to have dinner with them in "Their Home" on Thanksgiving Day.

    Where do you draw the line on Common Sense, human beings need "Rules And Regulations" where does all this "D0-Gooder Sh!t" stop.

    New Germs are popping up daily now, all coming from "over there", Castro puts the AIDS people in "Sanitoriums", maybe Castro isn't as dumb as we Neo Cons think he is.
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    My first rule on liberal politicos: I will seriously consider your line when you follow it yourself.

    Ted Kennedy: invite into your home and marry a person who doesn't want to work for a living, and who wants to have children out of wedlock.

    AlGore: start doing what you tell the rest of us to do, starting by using somewhere near the norm of energy consumption of the average U.S. family instead of TEN TIMES the U.S. family average.

    Hillarity: start telling me how "great" the public education system in America is, and how "badly" we need to give it BILLIONS and BILLIONS of more dollars of tax-payers' money AFTER you send Chelsea to a public school, NOT while you are sending her to a toney elite private school.


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    It's the only sure way to protect the uninfected majority population.



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    Why not just gas them? You sound pretty fascist there...again.
    What does your country do about infected people coming into Moronica?
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    The American Liberal wants you to bring them home to meet the kids so they won't be offended, I wonder how many people in America have died simply because the Loons didn't want to "Offend A Carrier" I wonder how many innocent wives and girl friends have died because "their man" was also out having anal sex with a carrier, caught AIDS then came home and killed them.

    Castro did the Common Sense Inteligent thing, Castro actually "saved lives" innocent lives.

    America is slowly but surely going Insane.
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    Then invite them all to YOUR house, Wistah. You toss around the "fascist" and "Moronica" labels so easily, let's see you put your money where your big mouth is: invite at least one AIDS-infected person into YOUR house or you have absolutely ZERO credibility.


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    Yeah, but that's not why Castro is "cool" to "liberal" America. He's only "cool" because he bashes America for fifty years and gets away with it.


    (Of course the thousands of people he has killed for disagreeing with him may not let him rest to peacefully when he makes the Great Transition which the equally "cool" left doesn't want to discuss, either. Surprises in store for many.)


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    Now the same Liberal Scumbags you speak of that have Become Famous and who have made Millions in the America they love to drag through the mud are now running down to Venezuela and Kissing the other dictator Hogo Chavez's a$s.
    Why don't these hateful Anti American Socialist Pig Bastard Millionaire movie stars and other liberal loons move down to Cuba & Venezuela where they can be close to their beloved dictators.

    Aren't Liberals supposed to be supportive of human rights and civil liberties why are they so in love with murdering dictators :D
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    How does one go about doing that? Would an announcement on Craig's List work?
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    Craig should be castrated on live TV.
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    Out of curiosity, how would you pay for it and are there any concerns for these people living a normal life.. Magic Johnson has aids, should he be in your sanitorium???
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    Try it. You want to let 'em walk free.


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    You answered your own question. People like Magic Johnson have tons of money to spend for their own and others (they may have infected??) to live separate from the uninfected.

    Or, just let 'em live in YOUR house if you feel it's "unfair".



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    actually... no... it's reserved for people like you who routinely warrant such a comparison... curious, however, considering how quick you are to lazily dismiss posters here as communists at every turn...
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    So, when does Magic move into YOUR crib??!!



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    ridiculous deflection... but i'll call your goofy bluff, as i always do:

    i'd take Magic in if he needed it... i wouldn't force him to... but i would force him to watch my Bird tapes on VHS...
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    Hah!! Good 'un. Tie him to the chair and prop his eyelids open with tooth picks. Works every time!

    So, then, if Magic is "unavailable", then do it for another. I'm sure you could find some candidates in Boston. Probably more than one.



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    what's indicative of Boston that way then?

    careful, Fog... you run the risk of alienated everyone on this board... not just 90% of it...
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    O-o-o-o, you've got me shakin' now!!!


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    I've had at least 3 "Aids infected" people in my house that I know of so far. One of them was a ten year-old kid from Liberia that a friend has adopted.

    Now shut the fu-k up! You have no idea what you're talking about...AGAIN! Have fun in your third world sh-thole country preaching your "love" religion. And when you see your god next time, tell him what a compassionate human being you are.
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    Before we knew a lot about the disease and before there were a lot of treatments, my best friends brother became infected, we all took turns caring for him.. that seemed to be the "christian expectation"... nnot sure how this expection works with the moon church.

    Have in my life known a few infected children and adults, most of whom are poor and do not have equal access to the designer ****tails.. their outlook on their state in life and pending death have been pretty remarkable.
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    The ex-patriot Fogbuster also appears to be ignorant of all the men who died in the 80's - white, heterosexual, non-drug shooting Americans who died just because they had hemophilia. Because Hemophilia is genetic and strikes boys, many families lost ALL of their boys to aids because they received tainted blood components during routine transfusions. One of my best friends died this way as well as his two brothers. I went to his wedding one year before his death. He was brilliant, huge Sox fan, loved by everyone he knew, and I miss him 18 years later.

    I guess some people are just stupid and there's nothing you can do about it except to point out again and again how stupid they are.
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    Hemophiliacs, accidents from ignorant blood transfusions, Ryan White, and all these regular people who contracted AIDS -- these are NOT the ones who should be segregated, they are NOT about whom I am talking, and I believe most people on this list would understand that.

    The people who deserve segregation are -- and, again I believe everybody here knows this -- are those people who willing ignore the inherent dangers of risky behaviors, and who are willing to pass any misfortune that comes to them onto the general public, be it their private insurance agency or the public treasury.

    I believe it is only common sense that those who willing engage in behaviors that they KNOW are fraught with deathly danger, not only to themselves but -- even worse -- to OTHERS need to be held liable for their willful contempt toward the public health. Example: the guy or gal with AIDS who continues to have promiscuous sex and passes on the disease to others. That's a crime in my book. Manslaughter, at least.

    And for those who insist on engaging in high-risk behavior but then demand medical coverage that forces others who do NOT engage in such behavior to have to pay for the one who does is also wrong; such a person needs to join a pool that includes only high-risk people like him/herself, people who willingly choose to engage in high-risk behavior; from that group they can decide among themselves how to pay for their treatment, but only with monies they have generated among themselves, NOT from the general pool of non-high risk people or public treasury.

    This is no different than life insurers whose first question is: do you smoke or not? If you do, you pay a higher rate than those who do not simply because the actuarial facts show the rate of potentially fatal health problems is substantially higher among smokers than non-smokers. Risky sexual practices are no different than smoking in terms of increasing the likelihood of contracting a potentially fatal disease, such as AIDS.


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    The basic problem with your reasoning, Fog, is that the more you penalize people, the more you force people underground and lose even more control of the situation. Not only do we have to worry about bad behavior, we have to worry about HIV mutating. For that reason, knowing who has the disease is extremely important, and less costly in the long run. The same would be true for smokers if cancer was an infectious virus.
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    i'll tell you who needs to be segregated away from the general population... religious fanaticals
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    Dear Father In Heaven Above, I love you Jesus please help me, I have been having sex with a
    "Dead Moose" in the woods behind my house, yesterday my neighbors wife caught me
    Mounting The Moose, I didn't have any pants on but I had a Patriots sweat shirt on, she screamed and called me a "f-cking bastard" you see Jesus I am also having sex with her in my garage, after calling me some terrible names she threw dirt on the dead moose then she ran home yelling she would never have sex with me again, now I don't know what to do Lord, my neigbors wife has left me, my own wife sleeps in the cellar and won't let me anywhere near her and soon the Moose will get rotten and be eaten by the Coyote's, and I will have to start having sex by myself again, please help me Lord Jesus and I will try to be good.
    Our Father Who Art In Heaven, Oh Lord Almighty God, Help Me
    I Love You Jesus
    Harry

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