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Ahmadinejad says Israel will soon disappear

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  1. otis p. driftwood

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    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080602124328.f6eyi8y1&show_article=1

    But really, all we need to do is just go talk to him, because he's a reasonable fella...
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    #75 Jersey

    ....slow news day, isn't it?

    In a related story, North Korea continues to be a communist country.

    Really, other than direct negotiations, what do you propose we do about Iran? What are the real options?
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    No, why?


    Okay, wistah, how would you even start to negotiate with someone who believes like Ahmedinjadblad does? I'd start funding the crap out the opposition, but that's liable to make the little muppet even crazier.
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    The obvious move is to act on behalf of Israel against America's own self interest, and nuke attack Iran, causing WWIII and our downfall as the superpower.
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    Sit back and let Israel handle it, Irsael will "Hiroshima Them" into their infernal scummy "paradise".

    The UN is a useless gang of filthy crooked vermin, get them the hell out of the USA, the UN Building would make a great Hotel, for "Americans Only"

    :bricks:
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    You've got it backwards.

    Israel has been acting on behalf of US interests each time regarding Nuclear Reactors- - - i.e. Osirek in Iraq and the recent one in Syria. Let's face it, their Air Force is just are better at it.
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    We're certainly interested, as are a number of other prominent nations, but none more so than Israel. They've had multiple extermination attempts against them in their history, so please excuse them if they're fearful of some lunatics obtaining nukes.

    BTW, their airforce learned from ours. ;)
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    #75 Jersey

    Hey, you're preachin' to the choir on that one, RW.
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    Good thing the United States has a president with his head screwed on right. I'm sure Bush will not rush to judgment on this.

    honestly....

    two of the worlds biggest idiots on Earth are holding all the bluff cards here..... I feel safe.
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    My bad shmess. I got the impression that you were saying Israel was doing that more for us, than for themselves. My appologies if I got that wrong.
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    No prob, RW. It's in both countries' interest. Kind of makes one scratch one's head when you hear people complaining about US support for Israel and comparing it to what we give Egypt or Jordan. Well, when those guys can go and knock out Saddam's Nuclear plant in the 1980's and Syria's just recently, then maybe they too will get commensurate aid from the U.S.
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    There is no self interest in attacking Iran, for America. If we do, it is only on behalf of our 'good friend Israel' who has been caught going against American interests in the past.

    The democracy excuse is BS. Iran used to be a democracy and we toppled it. There is no rational reason why we give Israel the most aid of any nation on the planet, aside from the fact that America no longer controls its own foreign policy.
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    #75 Jersey

    Example #1 of what I was talking about in post #12.

    Look up Osirak Nuclear on Google and ask yourself what would have been different in 1990-1992 (or beyond) if not for the Israeli Airforce.
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    Then that's not a real option, is it?

    How about we go back to being a country that can use it's considerable economic power and diplomatic cache (which will have to be completely rebuilt from the rubble it's in now, I understand), and call for a meeting, stop acting like spoiled rotten schoolgirls in the playground, and be grownups about this? This "I'm not talking to her, she said some mean things about my friend" garbage is not for the world's greatest power of all time - it's for pre-pubescent children. We've seen the effects of threats and isolation...nothing changes or things get worse. Find out what this guy wants, and when he say's "the destruction of Israel" we tell him to STFU and pick another subject.
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    I'm with you on that until the last sentence. Saying "STFU and pick another subject"????? When the leader of a nation says they want to perpetrate another Holocaust you really meant to merely tell him to stop and take up another subject? Wow.

    The first part - AMEN. We need to to rebuild our economic global marketshare and destroy the importance of the one and only thing that keeps Iran, Saudi (and Al Qaeda) from being just another Haiti - - OIL.

    If oil was eventually non-relevant, it wouldn't matter what we told them - - they would have no capability to hurt a fly. If not for hitting the lottery and having oil they would be just like Haiti or Myanmar.

    We should be cutting them off at the knees with technology and economically stimulating (read: job creating!) scientific development of alternative energy.

    Let's compare:

    Scene 1:

    Spend trillions of dollars on a war
    Enmity of almost every other country
    4,000 of our best and bravest killed
    Iran and Saudi's (an AQ) rake in the dough and expand their economic power
    US dollar injured and global marketshare and power diminished


    Scene 2:

    Keep our troops to fight the real AQ in Afghanistan
    Gradually bring them home from the mistake in Iraq
    Spend hundreds of billions on alternative energy
    -which creates millions of American jobs
    strengthens US economy
    cuts Iran, Saudi (AQ) off at the knees (oil= irrelevance) and turns them into Haiti/Bangladesh
    THEN we can tell them to STFU (our problem so far, is that we have been telling them to STFU in Scene 1 - - where we don't have the checkmate to do it.)
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    Oil will never be irrelevent. Even if you came up with some hydrogen based fuel cell vehicle next week, the rest of the world would still be using oil for decades and centuries to come. The only thing an alternative fuel source would do, is get us off of oil, and able to flash everyone who sells it to us, the finger. The idea of sitting down, president to president, with someone like Ahmenijad, is retarded. You always hold talks at some level, but to give instant credibility to a whacko is bad policy. Remember, you're not dealing with sane, civilized people when mentioning these folks. You're dealing with ego driven lunatics who can't be leveled with.
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    God, he sounds almost like Reagan with all that evil empire talk. Fortunately, Reagan sat down with Gorbachev and realized the two could work together. Let's hope the same happens with Bush and Ahmadinejad. They might not become fast friends, but talking one to one might ease tensions.

    At any rate, it's interesting that Ahmadinejad is baiting Bush and Israel. Clearly our presence in Iraq has emboldened Iran, perhaps because we took out their single biggest enemy. (They owe Bush and all Republicans a big thanks, IMHO.)
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    Bush? Who's he?

    Lame duck...irrelevant.
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    You won't be saying that if suddenly CNN breaks into their regularly scheduled Obama ball wash to announce that 75 cruise missles just wrecked various nuke sites in Iran.

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