Ahmad Brooks Watch: Currently under 270 lbs

[PonyExpress]

Len Pasquarelli reports in ESPN insider that Brooks has begun working out with a personal trainer and is now under 270. I am just the messenger...

 

[pats1]

How high of a draft pick would you be willing to give up for him?

 

[mcsully]

Really all depends on how the Patriots even view this guy. He was kicked off his college team and I'm sure there is more to that story.. Yes he was a great highschool player and ranked highly but has that translated on the field on the next level?

If his attitude is good, has the ability to play the position, I would give up a #3 or #4.. Reason thinking, we should get comp picks for the players we lost..

 

[Richter]

How high of a draft pick would you be willing to give up for him?

Zippo. Nada. Nothing.

 

[GoWesleyan]

In BB we trust.

If the Pats went after him with a 1st- I'd be OK with it (and very eager to see this guy in camp).

If the Pats didn't even put in a bid, I'd infer that the character problems are big, and would be good with that too.

That said, I think this guy could be a good fit and the Patriots are one of only a few teams that could really use him. I'd like to see them get this guy in the 2nd and would be thrilled if it was in the third.

 

[Phokus]

Wow, so he dropped 20 pounds already? Wasn't he up to 290 before? Dang, i wonder how i could drop weight that fast, i'm 240

 

[PatsFanInVa]

You can drop 20 pounds in a couple of weeks, just not in any healthy way - especially if you're trying to make a news headline as losing 20 pounds. If you're at 290 you can even excrete it various ways, without even working out much. But you've got to figure, these guys are constantly working out. The beauty of losing (versus gaining) in the NFL is that the fat goes first, when you're losing.

PFnV

Edited to say... I'd take him with a 3, if it were me, if he's there at 3. I personally wouldn't lose a 1 on the guy. And as said above, if BB would, well then I automatically would too. We watch a few games and then a highlight reel... BB/SP break down tape of every game with the attention I reserve for porno clips... if they take him higher, well then I'm just wrong.

 

[drpatriot]

I would be extremely disappointed if we used a 1st on Brooks. I would prefer to wait it out and see how he did late in the draft. 6th-7th? Sure, why not. 1st? No.

 

[T-ShirtDynasty]

Wow, so he dropped 20 pounds already? Wasn't he up to 290 before? Dang, i wonder how i could drop weight that fast, i'm 240

Absolutely you can drop that much weight that fast. Most of it would be water weight, and lean body mass. There's no way you drop that kind of weight that fast without sacrificing muscle in the process.

 

[patsox23]

I'd take him for a 3. It'll be interesting to see what happens. My money is on Saban, who seems to have no problem whatsoever with turds around the league and coming out of college.

 

[PatsWorldChamps]

How high of a draft pick would you be willing to give up for him?

No higher than a four or five

 

[OntarioPatsFan]

No higher than a four or five

I agree. But I see the Raiders or the Redskins taking him in the 1st or 2nd before we should be even considering picking him up.

 

[zippo59]

I'd take him for a 3. It'll be interesting to see what happens. My money is on Saban, who seems to have no problem whatsoever with turds around the league and coming out of college.

Heck, not only does Saban not mind players with character issues, I actually think he likes them. Perhaps he is attempting to build his team using the Al Davis formula, which has given him such great success of late.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Heck, not only does Saban not mind players with character issues, I actually think he likes them. Perhaps he is attempting to build his team using the Al Davis formula, which has given him such great success of late.

The only thing constants in the NFL are imitation and change.

When Belichick started the "character guys only, it's all about the team" formula, everyone was still salivating about having a Randy Moss or a Terrell Owens on board. Now there's more of a premium on character, you can get those athletic skills at a comparative discount. Some coaches/owners (Cowboys, Raiders, Broncos) seem to think their programs are good at making winners out of misfits. BB feels his system can only work in a comparatively ego-free zone.

Saban might be grouping himself with the above, and as the "character guys only" philosophy continues to propagate, those who deal with the misfits might win by "buying low" on the talented head-cases before everyone else jumps on the bandwagon.

I like where the Pats have taken the league in terms of football being a team sport. I don't think you can guarantee it stays that way (though just because I like my Pats winning, I would like to think the advantage of that approach is inherent in the FA/Salary Cap era.)

PFnV

 

[rookBoston]

If he's passes the character test, I'd spend a 4th. But if he's lazy or dumb or both, then best to leave him for the Vikings.

 

[Digger44]

Absolutely you can drop that much weight that fast. Most of it would be water weight, and lean body mass. There's no way you drop that kind of weight that fast without sacrificing muscle in the process.

Sure there is if the protein intake is increased to compensate for the muscle mass loss. It is typically known as the "Atkins Diet." I dont know if that is what he did, however a male can lose 12 lbs in the first week of the process to switch the body over from burning carbs to fat. No muscle is sacrificed. A typical male can also carry up to three pounds of perservatives in his colon as well. A healthy flush can cause a body cleansing that doesnt affect muscle. These two methods do not even include exercise.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Put me in the pass category.

 

[RayClay]

You have to wonder where he got the money to buy a 270 pound watch.

 

[T-ShirtDynasty]

Sure there is if the protein intake is increased to compensate for the muscle mass loss. It is typically known as the "Atkins Diet." I dont know if that is what he did, however a male can lose 12 lbs in the first week of the process to switch the body over from burning carbs to fat. No muscle is sacrificed. A typical male can also carry up to three pounds of perservatives in his colon as well. A healthy flush can cause a body cleansing that doesnt affect muscle. These two methods do not even include exercise.

I'm an Atkins Boy myself. 5 or 6 years on maintenance plan now, after a year or so of the hardcore induction plan which is very much like a body builder's Protein Spared Modified Fast diet. I've seen the fat / weight loss firsthand on my wife and myself. However, I've also gone through cutting/bulking phases of dieting/excercise while keeping very close track of my bodyfat %, and I'm telling you.... Doc Atkins "undersold" the ease and eagerness with which the body will go after it's own LBM (Lean Body Mass) when faced with a defecit. Even in ketosis LBM is utlized along with the fat stores for energy. I'm not saying this guy turned into a weakling in two weeks, just that for the average person, you don't really want to lose 20 lbs in two weeks... it's just too fast. You'll lose LBM along with slowing down your metabolism far too much.

And I really wanna see some respected sources on your 3 pounds of "preservatives" being stored in the colon. I understand the value of flushing, but "3 pounds of preservatives" sounds like some fad science to me.

 

[Phokus]

I'm an Atkins Boy myself. 5 or 6 years on maintenance plan now, after a year or so of the hardcore induction plan which is very much like a body builder's Protein Spared Modified Fast diet. I've seen the fat / weight loss firsthand on my wife and myself. However, I've also gone through cutting/bulking phases of dieting/excercise while keeping very close track of my bodyfat %, and I'm telling you.... Doc Atkins "undersold" the ease and eagerness with which the body will go after it's own LBM (Lean Body Mass) when faced with a defecit. Even in ketosis LBM is utlized along with the fat stores for energy. I'm not saying this guy turned into a weakling in two weeks, just that for the average person, you don't really want to lose 20 lbs in two weeks... it's just too fast. You'll lose LBM along with slowing down your metabolism far too much.

And I really wanna see some respected sources on your 3 pounds of "preservatives" being stored in the colon. I understand the value of flushing, but "3 pounds of preservatives" sounds like some fad science to me.

Interesting. Got any more information on 'Protein Spared Modified Fast'? I'm doing a bodybuilding program myself (i'm on my cutting phase), and i really need to get rid of my flab.