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    I gotta go with roethlisberger for my number 3 over derek anderson.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    At what point does Manning get the '06 Tom Brady treatment?
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Roethlisberger is the clear #2 above Manning. Even the pro bowl voters won't screw that up.

    If Manning has another few games like this, you might have to put Anderson in above him.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I really hope that Tom delivers another eff-u to this farcical exhibition game
    due to his 'shoulder injury.'
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I'd put Manning 5th right now behind Brady, Ben, Palmer, and Anderson.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Never. He'll get in on name and hype alone.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Anyone else think Vince will get in?

    Not that I think he deserves it.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    No, not unless someone elects not to go and even then Palmer and Anderson (assuming that theres no way the NFL let's Manning not be on the team) deserve it over Young.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Brady, Rothlisberger and Manning are clearly the choices IMO.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Carson Palmer? Please tell me you're joking.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I would put Manning behind Anderson based on my "Won more games by his mere presence meter" which has been significantly calibrated by last year's exclusion of Brady from the Pro Bowl.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Well, his season numbers are better than Manning's. And he plays for a worse team.

    So based on production alone he should get the same treatment as Manning as of now.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    He does play for a worse team, and he's part of the reason. I just think he is overrated.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Brady is a lock at starter. Anderson should be a lock to make the team, for the Cleveland offense rides on his shoulders and he has produced big-time. I would pick Roethlisberger over Manning, but don't really care either way. Palmer is definitely on the outside looking in, IMO. Nobody else deserves consideration.

    It should be noted that if these guys are more or less considered the top QBs in the AFC, the Pats will have played all of them by the time the season is through. If they beat Pittsburgh for the QB sweep, that's pretty damn good. Let's not forget they've beaten a sure NFC Pro Bowl QB in Romo as well.

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    I'm voting for Philip Rivers, he's the coming man, marshalling all that talent and winning games for San Diego... oh wait...
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    I think it's nuts to not have Manning at #2. Put him on a team with pro bowl receivers and he blows Worthlessturder away. PM > BR
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    Well we see what Brady is capable of when you give him a Pro Bowl receiver. That didn't seem to influence voters in the past when he got snubbed.
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    His team defense is 31st overall and 30th in points allowed per game. He's hardly one of the main reasons the Bengals are sucking and his numbers are better than Manning.




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    Voter's percaption can be different from facts, but I don't think that is the case here. While recent performances of PM and BR are fresh in our minds, I believe that having PM as the #2 gives the AFC the best chance of winning. It's not just about arms as Ben does have a good one, but Peyton's experience, his ability to read defenses and the respect he commands from team mates as a leader is miles ahead of Ben.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I don't think so. Right now I would say tied for third. Palmer won't get voted in because the Bengals are just awful.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Manning is obviously still the 2nd best QB in the league, but I don't see any reasonable argument that he's having the 2nd best season. Even taking out this weekend Roethlisberger as outplayed him. With this weekend it became a slam dunk, imo. The argument to me becomes has Manning had a better season than Derek Anderson? I'm not convinced he has.
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    Manning does give them a better chance of winning. But I didn't know the Pro Bowl was taken as anything more than an exhibition game. If it determined HFA like the MLB All-Star Game does that would be a different story. I think Manning is a lock to make it in anyway. He's well-liked enough to get the Ray Lewis Pro Bowl treatment.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I know Manning was missing his two main targets in the Chargers game
    but if you suck this bad without your main wideouts, then Brady should have been last season's MVP for taking his team to the AFCG
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    It is only an exhibition game. To us there should be no pressure to win, but I'm confident is stating that any player in the PB does feel pressure to perform well in front of his peers and not be the one to make bonehead plays. IMO Ben is not a pressure QB. Manning has struggled under pressure too, but not to the same extent. I'll bet BR collapses in the game at Gillette and leaves a poor impression.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    I think it should be:

    1. Brady
    2. Roethlesburger
    3. Anderson
    Alt: Manning

    I imagine Manning will get the 3 spot, though. Silly as it is.
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    Yeah, the thing about Derek Anderson is he's a no-name, come out of nowhere talent that is just now proving what he can do. Is he having an excellent year? Absolutely - to the surprise of many. But it's just the way people's thought processes go - he's unlikely to beat out the 'big names' - Brady, Manning, Roethlisberger. Manning, even if he struggles, will always make it based on his rep and popularity. This year, even if Big Ben is actually doing better, Manning will still likely get more votes.
    As for Anderson, he isn't likely to beat out any of the big three because he's not playing for a powerhouse team (like rivers last year) and he wasn't a highly touted top draft choise thought of as a franchise QB (like rivers) - so it's harder for him to get people to look at him as an elite QB. He's gonna really have to prove it and do it consistantly over time, before people will start to consider him to beat out the big three. It's not right, but that's the way it works. The only reason Rivers beat out brady last year, was Rivers was caught up in his team's hype, had all the 'backings' I just mentioned that people look for, and brady wasn't dazzling with his play. we all know brady is a much better player, but the opportunity just arose to sneak someone new in there, and sometimes, people are getting tired of the same 'ol same 'ol and want to see a fresh face in there. I think they all can see clearly now, that rivers to the pro-bowl was a gross miscalculation.
    still, anderson deserves credit for what he's doing. I gotta say though, I've taken notice of just how well big ben is playing this year compared to last.
    he's probably the hardest QB to sack in my opinion.
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    Re: afc pro bowl qb's

    Are you that much of a homer? Peyton has had better recievers pretty much throughout this whole season until Harrison went down and then Ben with a decent, but not near the high profile recieving core, is on pace to throw for 35-40 td's and probably over 3500 yards. Ben is an young qb who is starting to make his name as the next great qb, his physical talent tops all other starting qb's in the league imo and I think I have a pretty solid case, he can make huge plays with his arm or legs and he is what the Titans wished VY was.
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    Does anybody else think that rivers is way overrated? He has an awkeward(probably mispelled lol) throwing motion and his arm strength seems to be lacking.
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    Roethlisberger, Manning and I'm really torn between Derek Anderson and Phillip Rivers.






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    You call yourself a football fan? well your certainly not a very smart one. Ben is every bit a pressure qb. He lead his team from a 15 point defecit to victory this sunday and he makes the plays when his team needs them. Peyton is probably the most refined "passer" in the NFL, but he is nowhere near as cluth as big ben. You obviously did not watch the run the steelers made to superbowl XL, lol he made the game saving tackle for God sake, I dont see Manning making plays like that for his team to win. Ben put the Steelers on his back on the way to the superbowl, and he has put them on his back when he has needed to this season.
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