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ACORN Turns in 5000 Reistrations - First 2100 all Fraudulent - CNN

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  1. IcyPatriot

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    Great news Obamanoids ... link is CNN ... :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRhrT22BsIY

    Word is Indiana (red state) is now in play ... Ya Think !!!
     
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    ACORN is required BY LAW to turn in ALL REGISTRATIONS, even those registrations that they KNOW are fraudulent.


    ACORN claims that they mark any obviously fraudulent registrations.

    Please prove the following:

    1. That those 2100 fraudulent registrations weren't marked as suspicious by ACORN

    2. That those fraudulent registrations would logically and necessarily lead to voter fraud (i.e. that they wouldn't be caught by the VERY PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO VALIDATE REGISTRATIONS and that ACORN has people in the wings to try to vote using those fraudulent registrations
     
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    That's really bad. Too bad it has zero to do with Obama.
     
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    #95 Jersey

    Really?? Please provide a link where it says that. Otherwise they are a party to fraud. Fraud in the law is defined as, " an affirmative misrepresentation of a material fact inducing detrimental reliance." It seems that submitting voter registrations that are obviously false ( 2100 in a row leads one to an obvious conclusion)and done knowingly is not within ACORN or any group's mandate and I challenge you to show me the link that says it is....
     
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    2100, is that all. Pfft, if it was like 2101, then it would be bad.

    Nothing more to see here. Please move along.
     
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    who said it did
     
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    State seeks voter fraud probe in Lake County | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star

     
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    "Great news Obamanoids."
     
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    #87 Jersey

    Obamanoids would be Obama people ... not "The One" Wildo.
     
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    My, my, my, how the MSM distorts ...

    ... and how PF1996 got it right.

    Oct. 13, 2008 HPI Daily Wire | Howey Politics Indiana

    “We ourselves identified approximately 2,100 cards in Lake County that we believe were problematic,” ACORN spokesman Brian Kettenring said Friday. “We are the victim here because we have identified the problem, and now certain interests are turning that information against us.” Kettenring said most states require groups to turn in every voter registration solicited, which is why ACORN separated the suspect registration forms.
     
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    Maybe ACORN should join forces with Diebold and forge an axis of evil.:D

    In all seriousness though, ACORN does a lot of good stuff but unfortunately it is difficult to control everyone involved with them and stop this stuff from happening.
     
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    Re: My, my, my, how the MSM distorts ...

    :rofl: We committ criminal acts but we are good because we own up to it. :rofl:

    Will that work if I rob a bank tomorrow? :rofl:
     
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    Re: My, my, my, how the MSM distorts ...

    What an odd point of view. You don't give credit to organizations that police themselves? Does that mean you have a wholesale rejection of the Republican Party because of the Abramoff and other scandals, or do you have a different standard for organizations that represent primarily middle and upper class as opposed to those that represent the poor?
     
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    That's a big difference.

    That's the difference between "yeah there was a bad cop and we knew about it but he's one of us" and "Here's the bad cop, we caught him for you."

    It's pretty clear if this is the case, that ACORN

    1) does not order this sort of activity from the top;
    2) is involved with actively and systematically preventing abuses; and
    3) has a good deal of success in those efforts.

    Obviously the Obama campaign has no involvement, and now we're starting to see that ACORN raised the issue to prevent abuses on election day.

    Thank God the place wasn't run by Katherine Harris.

    PFnV
     
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    But that's not how it's playing to the public. Partisan viewpoints matters not. It's what the undecided or weak minded voters "feel" before they vote.

    Watch how they tie Acorn, Ayers and Obama all together. Right, wrong or indifferent, it's going to sway people.
     
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    I'm going to go with wrong.
     
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    LOL, you always choose wrong.


    2ez
     
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    Listen, why don't you do the damn research or are you too lazy=ignorant????



    Just joking - thought I would amuse myself by channeling FBN for a minute.:D


    To answer your question, I actually read this claim in several places, including an ACORN link and two articles including the one linked by Patters.

    I like having hard data to support claims so I went looking for the specific law and although I didn't find anything which says "fraudulent voter registrations must be turned in...", I did find laws in Ohio, Florida and Virginia which indicates that all registrations must be turned in within a certain time period and impose penalties for missing those deadlines. Here are the relevant excerpts from Virginia.


    § 24.2-1002.01 Destruction of, or failure to mail or deliver, voter registration application; penalty.

    If any person (i) agrees to mail or deliver a signed voter registration application to the voter registrar or other appropriate person authorized to receive the application and (ii) intentionally interferes with the applicant's effort to register either by destroying the application or by failing to mail or deliver the application in a timely manner, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor. The mailing or delivery of an application shall be deemed timely for the purposes of this section if it is mailed or delivered within 15 days of the applicant's signature or in accordance with the provisions of § 24.2-416.4 for processing before the closing of the registration records for the pending election whichever comes first. This section shall not apply to any state or local government employee acting in his official capacity. If any person intentionally solicits multiple registrations from any one person or intentionally falsifies a registration application, he shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony.

    < Delivery by a third party. All voter registrations applications turned in to a third party

    must be given to a Local Voter Registration Office within fifteen days after the person completed the application
    or by the registration deadline, whichever is earlier.

    Virginia State Board of Elections : Voter Registration Drives Guidelines


    Now, it seems odd that organizations would be required to turn in potentially fraudulent applications. However it's probably to ensure that applications aren't selectively discarded by the organization and also because it's the job of the registration office to determine eligibility. There are also guidelines that prohibit fraudulently completing an application but it appears from everything I've read that once the application has been completed, that it MUST be turned in.

    Let me know if you find anything different.





    You should have your brain permanently "rewired" to "think like a lefty" because it would help you produce rational, relevant posts. How the hell does this link answer my requirements for you?
     
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    #95 Jersey

    Actually some of us have jobs........

    Just kidding.... maybe......(you started the ad hominums)
    While you were posting that, you should have found the part about
    fraudulently registering people as that is more appropriate than 'turning in every registration form'. It's akin to posting the law regarding interfering with the mail re a tax return and not the one about filing a false tax return.
    If I get a chance later, i'll try to find it.
     

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