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    then God must hate the people of New Orleans. Hated all those folks butchered in 2 world wars and numerous conflicts across the globe.
     
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    God loves us all. Sinful men butcher each other and fail to heed warnings and earthly common sense in order to fulfill greed (see building a major city in a high flood risk area) but God is there to provide comfort and eternal life for those who allow him to.

    Some people see God as a "Santa Claus" who is to serve us. It is we who should be serving God.

    No God, No peace. Know God, Know peace.
     
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    If he's a god, why does he need us to "allow" him to do anything?

    And why should we have to serve him? What could he possibly want or need from us that he couldn't get from a dog?
     
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    I recently read this quote it pretty much sums it up:

    "God’s requirement that we serve Him is not for His benefit; rather, it is for ours. Because God is love (1 John 4:8), He wants the best for us. Our true contentment will be found only in living for Him, and that is why He bids us thus to do"

    the first reason God should be served and worshipped is because He deserves it. He made us and everything in the world. And as the quote says, what we receive in our hearts is far greater than anything we could ever give to Him. You are right, he doesnt "need" us. But He loves us and wants us to have a relationship with Him.

    Once we accept the sacrifice made by His son Jesus Christ, we are no longer condemned by our sin, but we are forgiven for all of our sin and enter into a relationship with our loving Father. This relationship is everlasting, nothing can seperate us from Him, and our hearts are changed
     
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    I'm not sure I can believe in a god that is so insecure that he needs to be worshipped constantly.
     
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    I hear what you are saying. My initial response would be..

    1. define constantly. whats a few minutes in a day, or an hour, for the creator of the universe?

    2. He doesnt need anything. We do. He is God. We could be gone tomorrow.

    But its a great and thoughtful question, or actually a question in a statement.
    As Ive said, I welcome feedback and observations like that. Its forces me to search for answers. thank you.

    I like this explanation I once found on the link www.wcg.org written by an author named Joseph Tkach


    Responding to God
    with worship

    We respond to God with worship, because worship is simply giving God what is fitting. He is praiseworthy, not only for his power but also for his gentleness.

    Most people praise power, but gentleness is also praiseworthy. Let’s think about it. Raw power is neither good nor bad, neither to be praised in itself or condemned in itself. Dictators have power, volcanoes have power and bacteria have power, but we do not praise such power. Power is praiseworthy only when it is used in a good way, in a way that helps others.

    God is love, and all that he does is done in love. This is praiseworthy. We praise love even on a human level, don’t we? We praise people who give their lives to help others. They did not have enough power to save their own lives, but what power they had, they used to help others—and that is praiseworthy. In contrast, we criticize people who had the power to help but refused to do it. Goodness is more praiseworthy than greatness is, and God is both good and great.

    Praise deepens the bond of love between us and God. God’s love for us is never diminished, but ours for him often grows weak. In praise, we rehearse his love for us and, in effect, fan the fire of love for him that the Spirit has started within us. It is good for us to remember and rehearse how wonderful God is, for that strengthens us in Christ and increases our motivation to be like him in his goodness, which increases our joy.

    We were made for the purpose of praising God (1 Peter 2:9), of giving him glory and honor, and the better we are in harmony with God's purpose for life, the greater joy will be ours. Life is simply more satisfying when we do what we were made to do: to honor God. We do that not only in worship, but also in the way we live every day.

    We honor God when we serve other people using the gifts God has given us. We honor God when we forgive instead of seeking revenge. We honor God and show that he is great when we shape our lives around him, when we value his loving word to us more than the ways of the world. We honor God when we look to Scripture instead of society, when we meet our obligations and responsibilities to others instead of shirking them.

    A way of life
    Worship is a way of life. We offer our bodies and minds as living sacrifices (Romans 12:1-2). We worship God when we share the gospel of his Son (Romans 15:16). We worship God when we give financial offerings (Philippians 4:18). We worship God when we help other people (Hebrews 13:16). We say that he is worthy, worth our time and attention and allegiance. We praise his power and his patience. We praise his glory, and his humility in becoming one of us for our sakes. We praise his righteousness and his mercy. We praise him for the way he really is.

    This is what we were made for, to declare his praises. Life works best if we live the way God intended us to. And this is our reasonable service. It is simply right that we praise the One who created us, the One who died and rose to save us and give us life eternal, the One who works even now to help us become more like him. We owe him our allegiance, and we owe him our love.

    We were made to praise God, and this is what we will do eternally. John was given a vision of our future: “I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: ‘To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!’†(Revelation 5:13). This is the right response: awe at the awesome, honor for the honorable, praise for the praiseworthy, and allegiance to the trustworthy.
     

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