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  1. thenepatsrule

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    denver has given up the fewest points so far this season

    their stats for points scored and points allowed is
    79 and 26 respectively

    while the Pats at the same time (ie 4 games) have
    87 and 71 respectively........ this is going to be a very interesting game.......atleast as far as Brady is concerned..........

    by the by the broncos have played cinci,cleveland,raiders and dallas in the first four weeks, so by the looks of it pats may be the first real offense the broncos face this season
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    Your last sentence is the most significant statement you made about next week's game.

    The Broncos, aside from the dysfunctional Cowboys, have beaten up on the garbage of the league.

    The Patriots have taken down multiple undefeated and quality opponents.

    I think what is going to happen is a tight game in the first half, followed by a blowout in the 2nd half as the Broncos stubbornly fail to adjust and become very predictable.
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    I think the Denver D, like the Pats' is better than once considered... but I, too, can't get past the Broncos' opponents.
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    This kind of stat is deceiving. The reasons for their opponents falling lower in the stat department is a result of the losses Denver handed them.

    The only equations that don't seem equal are Belichick and Brady, and I am not sure that those are not canceled out with McDaniels knowledge of the organization.

    We got lucky yesterday that, for whatever reason, the Ravens stayed in the air versus the ground. They had good ground numbers against us. As well they had a 60% plus 3rd down conversion rate. Those things need to tighten up.

    Then there is Dumervil......

    We beat the Bills by a lucky break, and the Ravens by a dropped catch. These are not "dominating" performances by any means at all.

    I started a thread week one about the Bills and the game, most replies were typical ball-washing behavior; "Blow them out by 40 pt's", "They are a laughing stock", "Easy win"...etc.

    Don't sell the Broncos short. This is a tough road game and the Broncos will lay it all on the line.
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    I'm predicting Pats 17-7.

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    The Bengals are 3-1 and have beaten the Steelers, how are they garbage?
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    Mile High is a tough place to play, our history vs Denver is terrible, McD has some good knowledge of us (as we do him), and Denvers D is much improved so I don't count them out but we are obviously the favorites and we should beat this team and by a good margin.
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    There is one HUGE reason why the Bengals don't scare me... Kyle Orton. His averages will catch up with him, he is playing way above his head right now. I am expecting him to make a couple big mistakes (INTs) against us. I don't fear any team that hands Orton the ball.
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    How about the fact that the Patriots are averaging 35:40 TOP per game, over 5 minutes more than Denver?
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    I don't understand the argument that Denver is only 4-0 because they have played weak teams. If the Patriots only played weak teams, shouldn't they be 4-0 too?

    This will be a very big test for the Patriots.
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    funny how every week everyone picks denver to disintegrate and play to the level everyone expected, no one gives them the credit that maybe they ARE playing the football they are capable of.

    bengals are 3-1 beating GB and PITT, denver held them scoreless for 59:20. raiders are the raiders, they suck, same with the browns, and guess what you do to bad teams? you kill them, they put up a combined 9 pts. what else are they supposed to do to a bad team, shut them out?

    the first team they play, dallas, who WAS leading the league in rushing, had their running game shut down. barely over 3 ypc for a team that was doing well over 5, as well as a handful of sacks for the team and 2 more for dumerville.

    seriously dont know what else the team is supposed to do to get respect from anyone, they kill bad teams and are beating the good teams, yet every week they are expected to lose...
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    Here's a stat that makes me confident the odds are in our favor i think were 30-6 since the end of '06 games. IMO it will be a tough game, it always is in Denver. I also think the odds are Merril Hoge and Shannon Sharp will pick Denver.
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    I expect a very ugly game with some inefficient red zone offense on our part. Crowd noise will be a huge factor and the Pats play clock issues will be seen. How many times has the play clock run out on the Pats this year? Pats will abandon the run early in this game against a feisty Denver D and get pass happy. A very hostile environment+altitude issues+Mcdaniels familiarity with NE=upset special.

    I think this game might be the other "dud" game Pats put up this year. Pats have been mighty fortunate to be 3-1 at this point. Denver is just a darn tough place to play--no matter who is playing for the Broncos, they play insanely awesome and just look unreal against the Pats. I can totally see this happening.
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    Denver has the second best D in the NFL right behind the Giants... when I watched them last week, could not figure out how they got so good so fast..
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    When the Pats were marching at the beginning of 07 everyone said the schedule was weak. The Pats were still great that year.
    Dallas had just rattled off consecutive 200+ yd rushing games, then Denver held them in check. Their D-line is much improved, and their secondary is still formidable.

    How the Pats will handle Brandon Marshall should be fun to watch, and how they choose to play Kyle Orton will be interesting.

    The Broncos traditionally gave us trouble, imho, mostly due to how Shanahan prepared his team. This situation is completely different.
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    Kyle Orton makes the Bengals less scary? Man, the new math is too much for me.
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    What's the line on this game? Just curious.
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    Cause they haven't beaten any quality teams either. The 3 wins are all against .500 teams or worse.
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    But the Pats didn't only play weak teams. Two of their three wins are against winning teams and their one loss was against a winning team.
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    I agree in part , especially the one on Dallas getting shut down on their running game but don't agree that the Broncos are 'killing' the bad teams.

    They were fortunate against the Browns (that's the first game with that miracle bounce-off catch, right?) but then, so were we to have a key play in the last few minutes of two games go in our favor thanks to our opponent's inability to deliver. Both the Broncos and the Pats capitalized on the errors made by our opponents and that's what separates the good teams from the average.

    I have always discarded the opponent's record because I strongly believe in the saying "Any Given Sunday".

    That said, here are the quick reasons I expect us to become dominant very soon: Brady slowly losing his rustiness, Welker and Moss in full strength, Mayo coming back, and most important - the D gelling together.

    Rodney made a great point that BB played vanilla D in the first two games to give an opportunity for the new D to work without its six starters and that he was slowly opening his book as the season progresses.

    So, here's hoping that the Pats players don't get coc*y going by what the experts on ESPN are saying about the Broncos and focus in getting a W.

    GO PATS!!
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    I haven't heard lots of talk about "dominating" the Ravens. The Pats won a tight game against a quality opponent. Many power rankings had the Ravens at number one last week. The Broncos are 4-0 and Mile High is a always a challenge for the Pats. But I see this as a win.

    Hope Watson doesn't have to run diagonally across the entire field again. :rolleyes:
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    they have the NFL leader in sack's (Elvis Dumervil)

    and 3 more relly fast LB

    and Champ Bailey is not what he was but he is still a lot better then any corner the ravens put out on sunday

    i see the pats wining 12 to 6
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    if orton can get on the same page as his receivers that will help the team alot, hes doing GOOD right now but missing some open guys. A+ on not turning the ball over however.

    the defense is playing better any broncos defense ive ever seen. and those arent deceiving stats, if you guys had seen the broncos play they are for real, the D is shutting people down, 26 TOTAL points allowed in 4 games is not a fluke. they wont be able to hold them up obviously but its still very, very good. what worries me this weekend is not randy moss, in fact he may well be neutralized as the pass rush will likely not let the long play develop and champ is playing great football. the LBers struggle in coverage sometime so the wes welker role could be tough unless they put the nickel on him all day, which i dont think theyll be able to do. it just depends. the media is still going off on "broncos havent played anyone" which is BS. theyve played 4 NFL teams and were picked as losers for 3 of the 4, yet still arent getting respect as a good football team, they are still blinded by their preseason misconceptions about the team.

    all will be told on sunday either way, they should be able to hang with the pats in a low scoring affair, really depends if the broncos offense gets together or not. we have more offensive talent everywhere than the ravens, but their QB is playing very well, and they put up 21.
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    In many people's opinions the "good teams" they hav beaten are really just average teams. They need to beat (or at least look good against) top teams before they get credit. If they beat the Patriots they will get respect.
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    so the patriots beat an awful ravens pass D, lose to the jets (who just lost to NO), last second win against hte bills after 50 some minutes of awful play and solid win against 2-1 falcons who cant run the ball anymore, and they are great. broncos destroy 2 of their 4 weak opponents, shut down the best run offense in the league and hold the bengals scoreless for 59.5 minutes, and they suck. gotcha.

    the "awful" teams that the broncos have beat have put up a lot of points against others, yet no one has put up anything against us, dallas didnt score in the 2nd 3rd or 4th quarters of the game. at some point, people will stop saying that the other team LOST the game and the broncos WON it. dunno when they will get that credit.
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    And Denver at this point is very fortunate to not be 2-2.

    Unless you think Stokely has turned "catching deflected interceptions for touchdowns" into some sort of predictive skill.


    Clearly, the Broncos are better than last year, but they've played a weak schedule, so we're not sure how good.
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    I can Orton trying to hard making a few Turnovers and this thing not being close.
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    If your really think the Cowboys have the best run offense in the league, you need to stop smoking crack and check into rehab. There are probably 10 teams better.
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    Denver has always been a house of horrors for us. Brady's had a 4 interception game in 2001, had the horrible playoff game in 2005. He did win a miracle Monday night game in 2003, but it was against the Broncos 3rd string QB (Dannel Kennel), and Denver was without their kicker (Elam).

    It doesn't seem to matter what kind of team Denver has, its always a tough game.
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