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  1. cloud34

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    “My job is to be the best leader for this team that I can be, and really to get ready to play the Bengals, and play really well. Because of that, I think it's pretty selfish if I sit here and that's all I'm worried about -- myself.”
     
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    He said that? Nice subtle message to Moss. If he really did say that, I wish ESPN would cover it as thoroughly as they are now covering the Moss story.
     
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    That would be too much like right tho. Tom brady being a mature leader and role model isnt news for bspn I guess.
     
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    Well, Randy created that news himself. They wouldn't be saying anything if he had just kept his mouth shut. But yeah, I agree. This is a non-story for ESPN.
     
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    That was DEFINITELY a message to Moss. Brady is too careful with his words for that to be a mistake.
     
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    I'm really not sure what more the team can do in order to make Moss feel "wanted". They rewarded him after 2007 with a fat contract that he is still playing under. When he came under attack for mailing it in this past season, this same team rallied around him in the locker room. His head coach defended him, quite viciously, against his attackers as did his quarterback. He's arguably the focal point of one of the more potent offensive attacks with a GOAT candidate at QB throwing to him. On top of that, he's enjoyed more success here than he has throughout his entire career playing in front of a region that loves him. How he doesn't feel wanted is beyond me. Why he would take that gripe to the media is also beyond me. Looks like Brady agrees...
     
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    Be careful what you wish for. No doubt they would lead it as derision in the Patriots locker room as this was clearly a shot across Randy's bow :rolleyes:
     
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    Even Borges who tabbed him the dink and dunk system puppet on and off the field finally gets it. Brady isn't naive, he's special (unfortunately a rarity in sports) on every level. I'm sure on some level Ron still resents the fact that Belichick and Kraft somehow landed such an across the board phenom, and swears if not the whole thing would have collapsed in a heap of discontent long ago as he always predicted it inevitably would...and he will probably write on that subject shortly as well...and he will probably make some unfortunately equally valid points.

    But for today it's all bouquets (save the requisite smarmy organizational dig, this time at Jonathan) for the QB. There is a reason some of us never sweat Brady. It's because we get that he gets it and we don't require rose colored glasses to come to that conclusion. It's pretty much the same deal when we assess Belichick...and it would be thus for Ron if he hadn't let a pretty childish and frankly unmanly personal agenda twist his professional perspective. We also get who doesn't get it and why, here and elsewhere, and that doesn't take special glasses, either. Why others are who they are is the result of being self absorbed and emotionally childish and therefore incapable of compartmentalization... not to mention so often ultimately self destructive.


    Tom Brady knows the game - BostonHerald.com
     
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    Both Brady and Moss have been pretty consistent with their contract statements. They are stuck in a no-win situation:

    - If they don't say anything, the media portrays that they must be disgruntled.

    - If they don't tell the truth ("I don't have a contract but I'm perfectly content with my situation"), the media calls out the lie and spins that they must be disgruntled.

    - If they come out and tell the truth (as they have done), the media uses it to reinforce the narrative they are pushing. In Brady's case, with an extension all but done, the only message they can peddle is that Brady really wants the extension done by Sunday because he was injured last time on the 1st drive of the 1st game. If it isn't done by Sunday, watch the tone go south really quick.

    - In Moss' case, the media desperately wants to put together the equation:

    No contract + Moss = Unhappy Moss + Raiders = End of Patriots Success

    Notice all the media stories are intended to get to the "End of Patriots Success" endgame. The only question is when and what will sink them...and every mediot wants to be the one to have their name attached to that story...aka the Mike Fish syndrome.

    - So Moss' statement, similar to comments earlier in the offseason, tells us:
    a) He believes he has busted his tail in NE (most would agree)
    b) He believes he has been very productive in NE (hard to disagree)
    c) He feels unwanted due to the lack of a contract (understandable)
    d) Feeling unwanted is a bad feeling (duh)
    e) He is older and understands the business (hardly disgruntled or immature)
    f) The situation has left him frustrated

    The last part is key. Frustrated. Not angry. Not unhappy. In fact, look at the statement in its entirety..."That's the frustrating part when you put so much heart and desire into things and feel like you are not wanted." That is a statement of unrequited love, not *****ing about money or respect. By all accounts he is happy and has had a tremendous camp. I am looking forward to a huge year from Moss despite constant headlines telling us that his attitude will be the straw that breaks the Patriots' back.
     
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    Moss' 'interview' last 56 seconds. I think it is being blown out of proportion.
     
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    Oh, I'm sure they'll cover this, and the headlines will read...

    "Brady throws Moss under the bus!"

    :bricks:
     
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    Last night on Sports Tonight,Felger was going off on Randy saying he does not want him back next season and this whining Randy is doing right now needs to be IGNORED and not addressed,he is a media monger according to Felger,he says the team needs him but they don't need the BS

    He went on to say if Randy does not get his way on ALL accounts he will not show up for games this year and will revert back to the Oakland days

    I agree with those comments to some degree,a Randy who is a whiner may not put forth the efforts we all expect from him in a contract year,hopefully not like a disinterested AD last season
     
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    It hasn't shown in training camp.
    By all accounts that I've read, he's been team oriented, helping rookies and not just receivers but defensive backs as well.
     
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    Exactly. If Moss wasn't going to put forth effort, wouldn't he have done that during training camp? Training camp is the worst part of the offseason for a lot of guys and Moss went through it, and didn't miss a day, despite being 33 years old.
     
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    Do you or anyone remember how Adalius looked in camp last season?...Not to try and compare the two players but just saying if anyone here remembers how was Adalius was looking in camp in 09?
     
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    Why isn't it a message to Mankins?
     
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    Then again, Adalius' name never came up in the forums or anywhere else as someone who was having positive influence on his teammates.
     
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    Using that line of logic... why do owners need that much money then? They are already richer than any of their players will ever be. Why not give some more and make the cap larger? The fact of the matter, everyone thinks they are worth a certain amount and none of them would like it if they don't get what they think they should be making. Players and owners.
     
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    I don't see that as a dig at Moss at all. To think that it is is like reading tea leaves. It's just who Tom is. I also think that Moss's comment was seriously blown out of proportion. It's not like he's unhappy. It's just natural for a guy to want the team he is on to want him to stick around. I'd bet money that Moss is professional (subjective, I know) all season long.
     
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