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  1. stevedogc

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    Both the Pentagon and 19 families of the 30 servicemen killed by the Taliban last week said they wanted no media coverage or photo's taken during the ceremony of when these hero's were brought home. And what does the White House do, takes a picture of Obama saluting the caskets (caskets were not shown) and released it. And if that wasnt bad enough, the White House then went on to defend their actions. Talk about a slap in the face of the the Seals and their families. This administration has no shame. But as we have been told by this administration before, never let a crisis go to waste.

    White House Photo of Ceremony for U.S. Troops Killed in Afghanistan Sparks Controversy - FoxNews.com
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    The faux outrage of the day.. there were no pix of the caskets taken as the remains were not identified.. there was no wishes violated.

    In case you do not understand this, the president, and upper level cabinet person, general and admiral have photographers who travel with them. My brother in law used to be an Air Force Photographer, he was an enlisted man assigned to the Pentagon and every day he photograph generals. It is what happens in this country.

    This is what presidents do... guess the daily bytch session continues.

    On one of the right wing sites, there were concerns because Michelle missed this event:confused::confused::confused:.. if you follow Obama he does a tremendous amount for veterans at the White House, just about every event he invites service men and women.
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    did you read the article? What part of....

    Pentagon officials had said that because 19 of 30 of the American families of the dead had objected to media coverage of the remains coming off a plane at Dover Air Force Base, no images could be taken. In addition, the Pentagon rejected media requests to take photos that showed officials at the ceremony but did not depict caskets

    Read more: White House Photo of Ceremony for U.S. Troops Killed in Afghanistan Sparks Controversy - FoxNews.com

    do you not understand?

    The article also stats that it is Pentagon policy that if any family member objects to any media coverage in a case where the dead have yet to be indentified then there will be no coverage at all since it is unknown which casket carries which remains.
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    No I did not read the Fox News Article I try very hard to read that idiocy, but I read the Military Times article which I trust more than Fox News..

    If you read the article, it seems that there was more concern the the news outlets could not cover this story, but the White House Photographer could.

    There were nothing violated here, nothing to see.. just bullshyt outrage.

    White House photo at ceremony sparks protest - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

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    Ok, just so you know, the associated press released the article. Both links have the same release, word for word. And both say the same thing. The Pentagon and the Family memebers wanted no media coverage. And they were specific to point out they wanted no photos, even if the caskets were not included.

    There was something violated. The wishes of the families and the Pentagon. Politics aside, Its unreal you can find a way to defend this.
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    I can defend it because it is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, the military times frames it one way and Fox News frames it a different way.. that is all. It is the same story, but a different way to frame it.

    What exactly was violated taking a pix of the president at Dover?? If the caskets were shown or he was shown with the families there would be a reason for outrage, but there was none of it. The media coverage was of the president and what presidents do.

    FYI there are other pix at this event on the military times.. what happens is what presidents do, they get their pix taken at every event they go to.
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    Just another slimey, disgusting maneuver by a man who cares more about his own media image than the lives of the men and women he is responsible for.
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    Then again, people on Fox were also saying Obama was going to Dover to pay his respects in order to take the focus off of the economy.

    In other words, who gives a **** about this latest concocted non-troversy? Pretty telling that the "protest" this sparked came from.......the media.
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    It has nothing to do with how the story is "framed" Foxnews and The Military Times are reporting the story from the AP. They are not contributing anything to the story. Its all about how the story is interpreted. You interpret it one way and I another. Which is fine. Everyone has their opinion. But when I read:

    Pentagon officials had said that because 19 of 30 of the American families of the dead had objected to media coverage of the remains coming off a plane at Dover Air Force Base, no images could be taken. In addition, the Pentagon rejected media requests to take photos that showed officials at the ceremony but did not depict caskets.

    I interpret it as no media coverage and no pictures. The caskets have nothing to do with it cause the Pentagon specifically said no to pictures even if the caskets are not in the pictures. But the question I have is how do you interpret it? How does no pictures and no media coverage mean anything else but that?
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    Wow, you just proved what a partisan hack , you are. THEY ARE THE SAME ******* ARTICLES.
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    This is a big story on the Milblogs they are not happy. Blackfive was in the Special Ops:

    BLACKFIVE

    And from the Mudville Gazette:

    Mudville Gazette


    Now Obama and his people are Despciable for defying the wishes of the families. Using these dead soldiers and there families as a photo op is one of the worst things I've ever seen a politician has done.


    But is get worse. There are indications from people in the Special OPS community that information given about the OBL take down was used to set a trap for the Seal Team, so the Taliban got their revenge for the killing of OBL.

    People (including me) said is was bad to reveal details of the operation. The enemy is evil not stupid. Obama got a victory lap and a poll bump and Seals got DEAD. No wonder the families didn't want the Stupid POS and his handlers around.

    Now they are dragging around and giving access to a film director named Boal (Hurt Locker, Valley of Elah), to do a movie on the OBL operation to be released for the election. So Obama plans to run on the graves of dead seals.

    Don't ask for links read the 2 links above they have numerous links to article documenting the disgraceful behavior of these animals.
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    I read the blackfive link and stopped reading after the 1st post by "Uncle Jimbo." No way this guy has an agenda or anything :rolleyes:

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    Yeah, Blackfive is a right-wing hackfest of a blog. No agenda there, or anything. Even on Blackfive they note most of the blame has to go to the military commanders who organized that fateful mission.

    As for the rest of your horrendous post, I don't think it's even worthy of comment.
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    Yeah cause your so connected to the military.....
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    When a blog calls the President, "Barry O" and "a complete tool" I'm pretty sure it has an agenda. Can you admit that?
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    Nice appeal to authority. Somehow I doubt it extends to blogs of the opposite political persuasion.
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    The families asked for no coverage Obama spit on thier wishes to use them as props for a scummy photo op,

    The families should have been the authority.

    EOS.
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    Is this what some of you are freaking out about? One picture?

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    Did you miss this in the article?

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    Sure people in the military don't like Obama, However the families publicly made their feelings known and that is what should have happened period there was no excuse for what the president and his political hacks did.


    NONE. NO EXCUSES.


    They are POS's for doing this to these greiving families.

    CAN YOU ADMIT THAT?

    BTW the other issue tipping off the enemy to how we did things was brought up here when the OBL details were released to the media. That put our guys at risk. Now we have dead SEALS.


    AGAIN UNACCEPTABLE.

    I attribute this to pure stupidity as these people are totally over their heads.

    The movie to try and make Barry look like Rambo is politics of the lowest level.
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    So Obama and his political hacks bring their own photog and release the images to the media ignoring the families wishes.

    Dead servicemen shouldn't be used as political props, especially when the pols leaked info to the public for poll #'s that seems to have helped the enemy bait the trap that led to the deaths.
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    You really think anyone is going to think twice about this photo?

    Once again, this is another example of you getting wrapped around the axle about something most people simply don't care about.

    Do you have any actual evidence that releasing information about the raid had anything to do with this latest catastrophe? Do you even realize that most of the information about the raid that became public came from military sources?
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    Were you in a coma during Bush's presidency?
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    But I do not trust Fox.. they lie all the time.
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    It was also on the nightly news, how do you reconcile that???

    Or is that not important??.. from the article..

    George Bush refused to go to Dover.. guess he was honoring the families:confused::confused::confused: or more likely a guilty conscience.

    Just another faux outrage of the day.. little is said about any reaction by the families..
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    Cannot find one article that claims the families were upset.. interesting what can be assumed from this article.

    Some peoples will claim that what Obama did was a photo op and desecrated the dead.. seem to recollect a president dude in a jacket standing on top of hallowed ground in NYC, some of the dust he was standing on was human dust..

    If you choose to follow what Obama does, a lot centers around the military and there are many invites to the White House..
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    A new low for Bush and his Administration (May 1st, 2003)

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    Some of you Obama apologists are pathetic. You will do whatever you can to avoid saying what Obama did was wrong. The families and the Pentagon said no media, no pictures. Anyone with the basic skills of reading comprehension can understand that. And what do we get from you guys:

    "Oh, Bush did it!" Wow, never heard that one before. For someone who was supposed to be so much better then Bush, Obama always seems to be compared to him. Regardless, if Bush did it, he was wrong too.

    "Well, the families haven't said they were upset." Gee, maybe its because, oh I dont know, they are grieving and taking care of personal matters, like burying and remembering the lives of these brave soldiers.

    Spin this in whatever way you want. Its there in plain english. No media, no pictures. Obama was wrong. He used this as a photo-op. The guy has zero repsect for these soldies and their families.
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    All of them?
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    Bush met with the families of most of the people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan the difference is he did it privately and did use the families for self aggrandizement.


    What Obama did is a disgrace worse was leaking the information that led to the ambush.

    Barry is scum.

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