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  1. mavfan2390

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    Players in red are all set...a upgrade isn't needed
    Players in lime are servicable but could be upgraded
    Players in blue need to be replaced ...they shouldn't be where they are

    I'm assuming TBC leaves


    LE-
    Ty Warren
    Marquise Hill I know he's third on the backup DL depth chart, but still, he shouldn't be on the roster

    DT-
    Vince Wilfork
    Mike Wright

    RE-
    Richard Seymour
    Jarvis Green



    OLB
    Rosevelt Colvin
    Adalius Thomas
    Don Davis St'er
    Larry Izzo St'er
    Barry Gardner actually had some productive seasons, I bet he'll surprise a lot of fans this season by contributing
    Corey Mays Cheap, young developmental player
    Pierre Woods Cheap, young developmental player

    ILB
    Mike Vrabel
    Tedy Bruschi Although we all LOVE 54 he just isn't the same guy anymore
    Junior Seau He's almost 40! I love his fire and leadership but the age doesn't fit
    Eric Alexander Alexander is what he is, solid depth, and a great st'er, it would be hard to find someone with the combo of experience, knowledge, and youth he has, BUT he's most definently upgradeable


    CB
    Asante Samuel
    Ellis HobbsIf the playoff Hobbs is the one we get to see more often I'll be thrilled...he was nothing short of brilliant against the Chargers and Colts
    Willie AndrewsGreat on St's
    Antwan Spain
    Chad Scott
    Antwain Spann
    Randall Gay
    Ray Mickens


    S
    Rodney Harrisonafter time and knee surgeries take their tole I don't know how much we can expect of Rodney
    Eugene Wilson
    Rashad Bakeryoung, talented, good backup
    James Sandersyoung, talented, played well in playoffs, great backup, serviceable starter
    Artrell Hawkins solid backup, very experienced, great depth


    We NEED the following...

    two solid backups at OLB
    one starter at ILB, and one more backup
    a starting caliber corner

    We could use help at safety but it isn't the most pressing need

    soooo....free agency/ draft looks like this...

    ILB

    starter
    Patrick Willis
    David Harris (2 down)
    Brandon Siler (2 down)
    Ed Hartwell
    Kawika Mitchell
    Nap Harris

    Willis would be great as would any of the three fa's mentioned, Harris and Siler aren't made for passing situations, they're more Ted Johnson pure run stopping types

    backup
    Zak DeOssie
    Anthony Waters
    Marvin Mitchell
    Jarret Johnson


    OLB
    Antwan Barnes
    Tim Shaw
    Quincy Black
    Prescott Burgess
    Jarvis Moss
    LaMarr Woodley
    I don't know much about FA 3-4 OLB's...

    Moss would have to be a first rounder...the Pats best bet is to take several in the mid rounds like Black, Barnes, and DeOssie

    CB
    Leon Hall
    Darrelle Revis
    Chris Houston
    Aaron Ross
    Marcus McCauley
    Josh Wilson

    to me, Wilson, and Hall fit into what the Pats do the best

    there are almost no decent FA corners


    S
    Reggie Nelson
    Michael Griffin
    Brandon Meriweather
    Eric Weddle
    Aaron Rouse
    Tank Williams
    Gibril Wilson (RFA)
    Deon Grant
    Ken Hamlin

    I believe that Griffin would be the best fit for the Pats, followed by Tank, Hamlin, Nelson, Meriweather, and Grant in no particular order
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    How can you make bruschi blue and alexander lime
  3. mavfan2390

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    It's taking into account their relative roles, Bruschi is expected to start, but he shouldn't. Alexander is a backup, and a solid one at that so he gets lime.
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    "He shouldn't be on the roster?"

    Explain yourself.
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    Yea there's that, plus how can Izzo and Davis be red and bru be blue??????:rolleyes:
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    Did you watch Seau last year? Age certainly doesnt fit and I dont know whether he will be signed but he was terrific last year. And I hope you realise how much the Run Defense slumped once he went on IR?
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    Bruschi will come back and suprise some people. Sure he is a year older but the thing people love about him is his work ethic and ball hawk skills. He always seems to be in the right place at the right time. I think with the addition of Thomas and Colvin roaming free it will open up a lot of INT type balls in the middle for Bruschi to get his hands on. Bank on it actually.
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    Your color scheme is counterintuitive.

    IMHO, Red should denote players who need upgrade. Blue players should be the "all set" ones.
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    Isn't Izzo a free agent?
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    Yea, I believe both he and Don Davis are.
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    Anyone's guess is as good (well, actually better) than mine as to how Thomas will be used. But I'm willing to bank on this fact: Colvin-Vrabel & Thomas will ALL be on the field FULL TIME. People use the word "rotation" as if these 3 guys are going to take turns and one of these three will be sitting on the sideline on any given play - that's just not right.

    These three guys will be on the field all the time, the only "rotating" will be between Vrabel and Thomas, who both have the versatility to move in and out based on the situation.

    So that leaves one spot open at ILB, which can be filled by Bruschi and one other player, with Alexander as a serviceable backup.
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    I suspect that's somewhat overstated.

    It's probably close to true for Thomas.

    It's probably close to true for Vrabel, but he's aging a little bit and could perhaps use some plays off, and BB always gives his rushers breathers during the game anyway.

    And Colvin definitely needs to take plays off, whether or not he's on the field at the time he'd doing it.
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    I understand that Bruschi has lost some speed and isn't the playmaker he was in 03-04, but you're suggesting that he shouldn't start at all? Could you please reccomend a 2 down ILB that would represent an upgrade over Bruschi, because I certainly cannot.
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    Absolutely. The addition of AD is going to make Bru better,put him in a position to do what he's always done so well. Signing AD is just what the doctor ordered for all of them-it changes everything,which is why the Pats pounced on him. I anticipate a great season for Bruschi.:rocker:
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    Obviously these players will get plays off. That's not what I meant.

    I was merely saying that these are all three-down players, full time starters. They will not be "rotating" as one rots away on the bench for downs. This isn't OLB by Comittee. These are all 3 very good starters, two of which can play ILB. Your Colvin comments confuse me. He has played very well for us over the past few seasons since battling back from a terrible injury.
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    What has Colvin been doing wrong? Explain yourself.
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    I hope he lands back here. He was doing his job and his loss hurt us big time-terrible timing,too.

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