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  1. Turk

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    Quotes from Republicans when Clinton committed troops to Bosnia:

    "You can support the troops but not the president."
    -Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)


    Hmmmm!!!
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    Troop Hater! Freedom hating liberal BS. Here's some more liberal BS propaganda. I suggest strongly that the Neo Cons not click on the following link:

    http://www.thepoorman.net/2005/06/29/words-to-remember/
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    I am a far right wing neo-con, I hated Clinton worse than the the NY Times, CNN or Uncle Teddy hates Bush but I SUPPORTED CLINTON and his little war because this is my country and he was my president. I consider my country and it's people my family, when they get into a fight I BACK THEM.
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    Even as a conservative, I didn't hate Clinton. I lost all respect when he lied under oath - as did many in uniform.

    The sad thing is, when the investigation was underway, had Clinton just said "Yes, I did have sex with that woman" it would have left the media, the right, and everyone else nowhere to go. He would have gained a lot of points witht he military for showing some sense of personal responsibility.

    But he didn't, and instead showed his true colors.
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    I totally agree. The question is, why does Bush garner so much respect from the military considering all the BS he slings almost every week? Is there anyone left who thinks the chimp doesn't lie to cover his or his friends' hairy arses?
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    Harry Boy made a very cogent point here that probably went over people's heads.

    We all are family here in the USA and much like any family, we bicker and squabble and fight.

    However, when one of our family members gets into it with an "outsider", we immediately have their backs.




    "Never take sides against the family" - Michael Corleone
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    I always thought that was true and it helps me get through the present climate of polarization we're in. Imagine if the Chinese were coming in through Canada next week. We would all be rushing to Montana and North Dakota with every weapon we could find regardless of your political leaning or stand on gay marriage. The first idiot who said the words "liberal", "conservative", "democrat" or "republican" would wind up with a bullet in his head.
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    It didn't go over their heads, most are liberals and they don't like hearing that stuff :bricks:
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    I don't think too many liberals would be willing to see the enemy march in here and take over America. I've had buddies run their mouth on more than one drinking ocassion, leading to a fight. It didn't matter that he was wrong, I jumped in there and fought for my friend. However, once the fight is over, you can be sure my friend heard (from all of us) how much of an idiot he was. And you can be sure that if it kept happening, I'd find new friends to hang out with. That's where we are in America right now. Nobody wants to see us fail in Iraq, but we don't want to pick any more needless fights either.
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    #15 Jersey

    Here's a few more...

    Here's a few more...


    "President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy."

    -Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), 1998

    "Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?"

    -Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

    -Governor George W. Bush (R-TX), 1998

    Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly."

    -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX), 1998
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    I always felt that Clinton didn't want to talk about his sex life in front of 2 billion people. While what he did was wrong, the investigation that tacked in that direction was far wronger, and I feel the Republican Party owes the US taxpayers $70 million for what amounted to witchhunt against the Clintons. Yes, he should have been honest about what he did, but I suspect at the time his judgment was clouded by embarrassment and the feeling that he was the victim of a witchhunt.

    Also, you're dreaming if you really think that if Clinton owned up to it, it would have been the end of it. It would have played out the same way. The radical right is filled with borderline psychopaths. I know. I was reading the posts at freerepublic during the Clinton era, including the nonsensical body count about Clinton killing 52 people.
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    Well, I don't think his motives were as innocent as you do. It wasn't embarrasment - except maybe on the same level as getting busted with your dad's Playboy when you were 12. He played the political game, and played it well.
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    I think Clinton was mostly embarrassed. After all, on all the other issues that Starr investigated, Clinton was surprisingly forthcoming, even as he sought to protect Presidential perogative.
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    The History books will take care of Clinton (and his wife) they will forever be, "History's Dirty Joke".
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    #75 Jersey

    Well, that depends on who writes the history books. Some will be written that W. is a bottom five president and extolling the Clinton years, others that W's a top 5 president and Clinton was an embarassment. I expect history books in schools will change everytime a new party is in power.

    I actually think Clinton came out of Monica-gate as well as it could've been done. People, even some Republicans, at least understand that even under oath, he was trying in vain to protect his wife and daughter, and find something admirable in it.

    Let's face it: If being an honorable and decent man was the role of our President, Jimmy Carter would be mentioned up there with Washington and Roosevelt.

    I don't think you can compare Clinton's crime (perjury) to that of W. or even Conservative poster boy/wet dream Reagan.
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    Clinton's impeachment will be looked upon like Andrew Jackson's impeachment, a politically motivated manipulation of the Constitution in order to slow down the agenda of a powerful president. No historian in his right mind will see the impeachment as being motivated by a Constitutional crisis or a legitimate concern about abuse of power.

    No historian will regard Bush as a top ten president. Even many neoconas are turning from him, and one compared his approach to that Vladimir Lenin. Bush will leave the world community in disarray, a world with new nuclear powers (North Korea and Iran), our economy saddled in debt, our neighbors socialist, and the American people highly polarized. If you want a conservative who will go down as a great president, as much as I disliked Ronald Reagan, he did make sense of the world and implemented policies that achieved many of his aims.

    I predict Bush will easily squeeze out Carter as the worst President of the last 50 years.
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    #15 Jersey

    You meant to say Nixon, didn't you?
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