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  1. Rob0729

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    For all you Chicken Littles out there I want to point you to several facts of the last four years:

    On December 1, 2005, Pittsburgh were 8-4 coming off back to back loss including a 26-7 loss to Indy.

    On December 10, 2006, the Colts finished a streak losing 3 out of 4 games including a 44-10 loss to Jacksonville and went on to have statistically the worst run defense in NFL history.

    On December 1, 2007, the Giants were 6-5 coming off a 41-17 loss to the Vikes.

    On December 1, 2008, the Cards were 7-5 and coming off a 48-20 loss to the Eagles.

    What do all these teams have in common other than not looking like strong Super Bowl contenders entering December? They all won the Super Bowl (except the Card who came close to winning the Super Bowl, but lost it in the final two minutes of the game) in the years listed eventhough all were expected to either not make the playoffs at all or be one and done once the playoffs started.

    Now this doesn't mean the Pats will win the Super Bowl, but it definitely means that the people writing them off too prematurely. Barring a total collapse the Pats will win the AFC East. Once the Pats get into the playoffs, anything can happen.
     
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    Good post. Hopefully, BB will read it and realize there's no need to fire O'Brien and Pees and bring Crennel and Weis back for the stretch run. :rolleyes:
     
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    Agreed.. there is a lot of football left..

    Who the F*ck thought the giants would even make the playoffs in 07, let alone beat the Pats in the SB after the Pats beat them in NY?
     
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    Thanks, Rob. Good to see something upbeat on the board. You would think the Pats are 3-8 from the tone of its fan base reflected in the posts today.
     
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    Get in the tournament... and see what happens...
     
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    Good post. I had been thinking about all of those situations.

    Certainly the season's not over and there's time to regroup. My biggest concerns at this point are:

    1. The Pats have no pass rush. That's a huge flaw which will be hard to overcome or disguise come playoff time.

    2. The Pats still haven't played a 60 minute game, executed effectively in the red zone, or won a true road game this year.

    3. The Pats have fallen flat in 4 of their biggest contests this season.

    Those things don't bode well for us. But, as you say, there's no reason to panic at this stage.
     
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    Sensible post. It's not over until it's over.

    The one big thing we have in our favor is that it's Brady back there, and you never rule him out. it's not like we have an one and out QB.
     
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    Tru say. Alot can change between now and January.

    Who here wouldn't want another shot at the Colts? We should have beat them.

    The only team we have reason to not feel confident against is the Saints, and we may not even have to see them if we do get to the bowl.
     
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    Haven't you been paying attention Sean????

    One and done.

    I, personally, have read that nostradamusism 10 times--and that's only today!

    Try to keep up.
     
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    Nice try to get our hopes up Rob and another one is the fact that the NFC Champion Cardinals got crushed by nearly 40 points against the Patriots last december and was the last game they lost prior to the big game IIRC.
     
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    Anything can happen. I love our 'perspective' after we loose.

    Did we have good perspective after Cassel's year?????
    After we don't make far in the playoff in this season, we still have 'perspective' for next year.

    The bottom line is the perspective is always there even though we can't do sh!t about it years after years.

    Is it GREAT or what?

    YES, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN ------> NO, WE STILL CAN'T DO SH!T. Please make a thread so that we can talk about 'perspective', 'hope', or whatever to make you feel good after we loose years after years.
     
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    Why don't you go to the Practice Squad and make that thread yourself. Maybe others with your passionate total lack of perspective not to mention grasp of fundamental grammer will join you there and create the kind of dynamic that forum was supposedly designed to foster...
     
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    They all had 2 important things in common that we don't have:

    Dynamic pass rushers that constantly put pressure on QBs.
    Smart coordinators
     
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    Really?!? The Cards had 22nd ranked pass defense last year. They were 14th in sacks. In 2007, the Giants were 17th in opposing QB's QB rating and 17th in points allowed. In 2006, Indy was 30th in sacks with 25.
     
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    The facts really do paint a different picture, don't they.

    I saw last night was a lost cause pretty early on, but in no way do I plan on bagging the rest of the season. No way are we anywhere near as bad as we looked last night. A little perspective is good for all of us.
     
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    Rob is spot-on. Pats go 12-4. Get 1st round bye. Dolts fold in the divisionals. Vikes knock off the Saints and the Pats play Mr. Turnover Favre in the SB.

    Pats still have 5 more games to improve on D, running game and passing game.

    I can live with that.
     
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    This season is over in terms of winning a Superbowl. It is now time to discuss when to let Belichick go. Just like a gambler at the craps table in Vegas his run is over.

    I know it stings the senses to read that but deep down you know it is true. The failures are mounting.

    1) Spy Gate
    2) AFCCG loss to Colts after being up 18 points.
    3) SB loss to Giants who were 14 point underdogs
    4) Wild Cat melt down to Dolphins and thus lost division title.
    5) 4th and 2
     
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    Who would you like to replace him? No one is as good as BB, hes the best in the business.

    3 out of the 5 took place on the field and BB has no control over those.

    This is ridiculous. We might as well release Brady too, his failures are mounting too
     
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    LOL! Only in New England would people call going to the AFC Championship game one year and the Super Bowl the next as failures. I can think about 28-29 other teams who wished they had such coaching failures on their teams.

    Seriously put down the mouse and step away from the keyboard.
     
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    Cardinals didn't win the SB so I don't know why you included them in your post. My post was specifically meant for Pitt, Indy, and NY.

    As for your stats, coming into the game last night, our defense was ranked third. But that doesn't really paint the whole picture does it?

    The teams the Colts were facing knew that Freeney was coming and got rid of the ball early. Just by Freeney's presence, the other teams' pass offense got disrupted. Now you can look at the sack totals, but you're not going to see the number of hurries Freeney and Mathis forced.

    You're going to look at the 07 Giants based how effective their defense was based on that stat? Did you see any of their games from December on?
     
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