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  1. DarrylS

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    While ingesting the morning gruel, came across the following article in the local Providence Journal.. apparently a 4 time felon wanted to arm himself for "doomsday".. he went to a local dealer and tried to purchase weapons in his wife's name and bought: 4 9mm pistols, 357 revolver, two semiautomatic assault rifles, a remington 30-06, two shotguns and more than 750 rounds of ammunition. This was to add to his already illegal collection that he kept in a storage unit..

    When he went to pick up his arsenal of destruction, he was arrested.. but think of all the possibilities and loopholes to obtain assault rifles.. criminal minds do not even have to steal to get guns.. have your wife or proxy do it for you.

    The regular news article is much longer and has more details.. he is facing 10 years of federal time, 250K fine and 3 years supervised probation.. federal time is hard time and will have to do all of it.

    Wonder if his wife will be charged as apparently she is an accessory to this criminal behavior..

    RI felon pleads guilty in doomsday arming scheme | Breaking News | providencejournal.com | The Providence Journal

     
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    #12 Jersey

    She'll probably be charged with something though I'm not familiar with RI law. I know that Spengler guy that shot the firefighters had a neighbor buy his guns for him and she's been charged with lying on a form. I'm not sure what the penalty for that is but I think it should be severe when the guns wind up being used to commit a crime.
     
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    This all took place in federal court, so suspect something will happen to her.. unless she flipped and testified against him, but still imagine something happening.
     
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    if she has no priors, she will likely plead out and be fined.
     
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    It's called a Straw Purchase and it's illegal. I'm not sure what the point is - the system worked. HE was not buying anything - it's the firearms equivilant of giving someone over 21 money to buy beer for you when you were a minor. Just a heck of a lot more serious. If she picked them up, and was not a prohibited person because she passed the background check, then it would have worked.

    She should be prosecuted by the Feds. If not, it's just another example of not enforcing existing gun laws.
     
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    Practically speaking it didn't work though. Severe enough penalties have to doled out to discourage this kind of thing happening. If someone is asking you to buy a gun you have to know they aren't allowed to themselves. If you buy for them then you should face the same penalty. If they murder with them then you should be an accessory. What is the penalty for a straw purchase of a gun, does anybody know? If it's not deterrent enough then the existing law is insufficient.
     
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    Fairly good article here:

    Federal Observer Articles - Federal Observer
     
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    The point was he got caught, how many do not??

    Anyone who buys this many guns/ammunition should be red flagged.. and have a courtesy call by the feds.
     

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