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  1. FloridaPatsFan

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    Lets say that Cassel plays great sunday, but we lose...........

    He puts up solid numbers...something along the lines of 16 for 28 for 190 yards with 2 TD's and 1 INT.....Looks solid all day, but the INT comes on the last drive of the game.....

    Or

    He has a poor game, but we win and Cassel has a statistical line of 12 for 28 for 128 yards with 0 TD's and 2 INT's. Looks shaky all afternoon.

    Do you take the victory and move on.....not having answered definitavely the QB situation.

    Or

    Take heart in that the kid battles all afternoon, keeps us in the game but shows inexperience in the 4th quarter.....

    I know some of you would say...Cassel is going to tear the Jets a new butt hole....and believe me, I want that so badly, that I'm going to take a knee sunday morning and pray for just that....A nationally televised beatdown of the Jets.

    But the reality is...We are starting a QB that has not started a football game in a regular season since high school......
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    I'm so sick of hearing this line all week.

    Brady went out of the game with 52 minutes still remaining.

    Of course it wasn't officially a start but every time someone brings that up it's insinuating he hasn't had full game NFL experience, which is now wrong.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    I am one of the biggest anti-Cassel guys in here but that does not mean I don't think he should have a chance to prove he is more than a clipboard holder - We have no control over what BB wants to do so we live with it this year like it or not

    Give him till week 9 or 10 to see if he has anything- If the team is doing poorly then he deserves any objectivity he gets from fans all over Pats Nation

    If he plays unexpectably good then he will deserve praise at that time

    Right now all I can say is I doubt he becomes anything near the Brady of 2001 - Game 2 adds to his resume
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....


    All that matters is that Cassel doesn't self destruct and let Favre have a blow out.

    All other scenarios are fine. If Cassel wins or loses a close game for his first start, he has a chance to give us a respectable season. After all, even Tom was 9 -7 in 2002. They need only to get that to defuse all this BB is a fraud foolishness.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Lets be honest now.

    It seems like a bad idea to not have let Matt play most of the 4th (and 3rd in some cases) quarter(s) last season. If you review the game logs, he could have played 10 quarters easily when Patriots were up 21 or more.

    He also could have started the last 2 games but of course we wanted that "16-0" banner. That would bring his experience up to 18 quarters from 2007.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Disco, It's a different situation.

    Pressure seperates the best from the rest.

    For Cassel, the pressure from getting through onegame has increased dramatically to getting us through the wholeseason.
     
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    Hey I know, the line has just been bugging me all week. :D
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Brady had his struggles early on. You stay the course because it's a process. Same deal with any QB starting his first NFL game regardless of how many games he started in college. It's not the same game at this level. That's why so few even make it to this level and so many of those who do wash out.

    The coaching staff will evaluate his performance in context over the next 3 weeks. In context being the key fans ignored in pre season. They will make corrections and see if he progresses. They will also be doing the same with every player on the field. If he throws that pick because his WR ran the wrong route or made the incorrect adjustment, it's not on him it's on them... If we failed to score because his line couldn't block a sneeze or his rb's fumbled the ball a key junctures, it's not on him...hypothetically or otherwise.

    PS a lot of other fans would say to our whining and angst this week, welcome to our world, and back to reality for most NFL fans...
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    As far as I am concerned he has four games to prove him self.

    If he throws 6 Int on Sunday I will be on this board pointing out that Peyton Manning did the same damn thing one game last season.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    God that is so frighteningly true.....
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    The reality is...We have an "all world" coach and receiver complemented by some other very good receivers, tight-ends, 3 solid running backs, a good offensive line, and IMO a "good to possibly stifling defense" with a young, "system-seasoned" QB with nothing to lose and a lot to gain under center. Stop worrying and take it for what it is.....a possibly exciting ride for the season or a wait 'til Tom comes back "year".
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Yeah I sometimes visit a fish MB. They have a poll on what week they will get this seasons first win. The consensus is if they don't pull it off this week against the Cards (fins are 7 pt underdogs) there next legit shot is Nov 19th. Anyone who predicted 8-8 for the season was called a homer. Most would consider coming in 3rd in the AFC east as exceeding expectations. Too many of our fan base joined in 2002. Not enough remember 1990.
     
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    I have no idea what a fish MB is...........
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Dolphins Message Board...........

    I'm an idiot............
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Dolphins Message Board or a Finding Nemo toy by Milton Bradley.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Only took me 6 minutes to figure it out......I'm like Drew Bledsoe in a collapsing pocket with a game on the line.....It took me forever to figure it out.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    Your right, if I hear Felger say Cassell hasnt played a meaningful game since high school one more time, I think I'll stick a boot through my tv screen, HE JUST PLAYED LAST WEEK FELGER, YOU DOUCHBAG.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    And he played 3/4 of a game against Miami. And although the NEP lost that game. Cassel is not to blame.

    During the first quarter TB threw an int. Cassel did not throw a single one. Cassel went 11 for 20 for 168 yards. While 11 for 20 is not impressive it is better than Tom's 3 for 8. The running game sucked 55 yards in 28 plays. And the defense did didlily poo allowing 378 yards. And Matt engineered 2 4th quarter scoring drives both ending in Cassel throwing for a TD.

    In order for the team to win the rb and defense needs to do their jobs too.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    I think this is the best scenario possible for Cassel to have success. If he fails miserably, then he won't be in the NFL next season.

    Reasons:

    1. He is auditioning for a starting job with another team for next season
    2. He is surrounded by a top 3 offense
    3. He will be put in a position to succeed by his coaches and fellow players
    4. He has a very good defense that can compensate for some mistakes and keep the oppositions scoring down, giving him a chance to win with average numbers
    5. The platoon of backs will be able to grind down the defense preserving leads late in the game.

    I am reserving judgement until after this game, but I tend to lean towards a young QB who has stuck with his dream - blossoming right before our eyes.
     
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    Re: A Hypothetical Situation Regarding Cassel.....

    For God's sake this was our reality in 2005 and 2006 (D that couldn't stop a dead cat in '05, a "Who's That?" receiver corps in '06). . . . Damn has 2007 spoiled us. :) / :(
     
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