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1. If there ARE other teams that are out there who would pay Assante MORE than the Dre Bly deal that the Pats offered, where are those OFFERS?? There hasn't been a single one reported.
2. The onus of making a trade happen is clearly in the hands of Samuel and his representatives. He is the technical FA. He is free to go to any team and shop himself. If he is so disappointed in the way the Pats are treating him, why isn't he out there visiting other teams making something happen??
3. Coming back after 10 games is not required. He can stay out the entire year. Coming back after 10 game merely gets him an extra year toward his pension, and at the contract level he's going to be at, a pension 30 years down the road is not a reason to come back if he's that stupid to sit down for 10 games. It might as well be the entire season.
4. I'd trade Samuel for Winfield and a 2nd in a nanosecond. You'd get a CB with just under elite capabilities (inother words very good), plus a good pick in next years draft. I think Winfield's contract is in the Dre Bly range, so its within the Pats budget. He would give the Pats probably 2 more years of top notch play, which is time for them to find their next top flight CB to pair with Hobbs. BTW- Hobbs, IMHO is ahead of Samuel's development at this stage of his career.
5. I think we are vastly underrating the aquisition of Torrey James. Don't forget that this guy was in Hawaii just 2 years ago. I see him as a reincarnation of OTIS. Like Smith, he is a big CB, who can physically handle the bigger WRs in the short zone with over the top help. He is definitely on the downside, but so was OTIS. He also has better ball skills than OTIS. Put in the right situations he will be very effective, even if Samuel remains.
6. Right now, without Samuel and not including the rookies or camp fodder, Pats have the following people capable of playing CB this season. Hobbs, Gay, Scott, James, Wilson, Merriweather. Those are 6 guys would are better 6 deep than what we had in 2001, 2003, and 2004. We might have had better starters in SOME of those years, but not the depth. It is clearly better if Samuel is there, but the Pats have won championships with less.
7. Samuel will probably end up missing most of TC if things keep on this track, but I CANNOT envision him holding out actual games. To what end. What does that accomplish other than hurt his marketability, hurt his teammates and his relationship to them, and cost him millions of dollars.
If he is unwilling to come down on his demands, and the Pats are unwilling to come up, then he has no choice but to eventually sign the tender and play like hell the ENTIRE year. Sitting out 10 games is ridiculous, and hurts HIM more than the team. Sitting out the entire year, is even more stupid.
BOTTOM LINE - Forget about the Pats I would ask the board to explain to me how sitting out 10-16 games helps Assante Samuel in any manner. I just can't see it.
2. The onus of making a trade happen is clearly in the hands of Samuel and his representatives. He is the technical FA. He is free to go to any team and shop himself. If he is so disappointed in the way the Pats are treating him, why isn't he out there visiting other teams making something happen??
3. Coming back after 10 games is not required. He can stay out the entire year. Coming back after 10 game merely gets him an extra year toward his pension, and at the contract level he's going to be at, a pension 30 years down the road is not a reason to come back if he's that stupid to sit down for 10 games. It might as well be the entire season.
4. I'd trade Samuel for Winfield and a 2nd in a nanosecond. You'd get a CB with just under elite capabilities (inother words very good), plus a good pick in next years draft. I think Winfield's contract is in the Dre Bly range, so its within the Pats budget. He would give the Pats probably 2 more years of top notch play, which is time for them to find their next top flight CB to pair with Hobbs. BTW- Hobbs, IMHO is ahead of Samuel's development at this stage of his career.
5. I think we are vastly underrating the aquisition of Torrey James. Don't forget that this guy was in Hawaii just 2 years ago. I see him as a reincarnation of OTIS. Like Smith, he is a big CB, who can physically handle the bigger WRs in the short zone with over the top help. He is definitely on the downside, but so was OTIS. He also has better ball skills than OTIS. Put in the right situations he will be very effective, even if Samuel remains.
6. Right now, without Samuel and not including the rookies or camp fodder, Pats have the following people capable of playing CB this season. Hobbs, Gay, Scott, James, Wilson, Merriweather. Those are 6 guys would are better 6 deep than what we had in 2001, 2003, and 2004. We might have had better starters in SOME of those years, but not the depth. It is clearly better if Samuel is there, but the Pats have won championships with less.
7. Samuel will probably end up missing most of TC if things keep on this track, but I CANNOT envision him holding out actual games. To what end. What does that accomplish other than hurt his marketability, hurt his teammates and his relationship to them, and cost him millions of dollars.
If he is unwilling to come down on his demands, and the Pats are unwilling to come up, then he has no choice but to eventually sign the tender and play like hell the ENTIRE year. Sitting out 10 games is ridiculous, and hurts HIM more than the team. Sitting out the entire year, is even more stupid.
BOTTOM LINE - Forget about the Pats I would ask the board to explain to me how sitting out 10-16 games helps Assante Samuel in any manner. I just can't see it.
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