9/19 Daily scandal press -- Post 'em all here!

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  1. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    The board has gotten choked by separate threads on every single columnist and talking head weighing in with his or her opinion. Please support our ability to talk football by posting all of these items here. (Actual breaking news is another story, of course.) Thank you!
  2. nowayback

    nowayback Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Has to be stickied or this will disappear. :confused:
  3. nowayback

    nowayback Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    maybe use the training camp room for spygate stuff?
  4. checkedout

    checkedout On the Game Day Roster

    Would be allot easier if they stay in thier own thread.
  5. dryheat44

    dryheat44 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Thank you.
  6. Mack Herron

    Mack Herron In the Starting Line-Up

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    Arrest them all!

    Last edited: Sep 19, 2007
  7. patchick

    patchick Moderatrix Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    "Statement by Kimmons Security Services" -- ok, that's a paid blurb on PR Newswire! It's just a security company trying to use a news story as an advertising opportunity.
  8. Lloyd_Christmas

    Lloyd_Christmas I can delete my own crap! PatsFans.com Supporter

    Re: Arrest them all!

    That is some REALLY funny S_h_i_t !!!

    Was the writer of that hilarious article aware that the persons in question in the SECRET wiretapping incident were playing football in public with 60K plus fans around them?

    I'm pretty sure they gave up their right to privacy. That article was really far fetched.
  9. checkedout

    checkedout On the Game Day Roster

    This sucks! Now I have to sift thru every post in this thread plus scroll over the titles in the main forum to find stuff. It sucks I tell you!
  10. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    It does seem as if every obscure media wanna be is putting out pure speculation pieces with dramatic headlines just to get themselves noticed.

    I agree that it has gone over the top and that we should post them on one thread unless they are really factual and from a credible source.
  11. upstater1

    upstater1 Pro Bowl Player

    I'm a little confused here. Is this thread only for posting of articles or discussion as well?

    It seems to me that a lot of articles are going to be missed if we discuss them in this very same thread. Maybe one article thread and one discussion thread?
  12. dryheat44

    dryheat44 Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Yeah, that is pretty funny. FYI as a matter of law, in New York state, you have the right to tape your conversations without any consent. Assuming the Patriots defenders were also making noise, there's no violation of law.
  13. checkedout

    checkedout On the Game Day Roster

    NUT, wouldn't it be easier to place the 'other threads' into thier own sticky?
    You need to send your leak picture over to PFT for the "pic of the day"
  14. NYCPatsFan

    NYCPatsFan In the Starting Line-Up

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    I attempted creating this sticky last week but it got buried in the avalanche of other threads. Hope this is useful...

    Note - I didn't bother to include every journalist/story who is trying to slander us. But players - yes, I tried to include all because they should be knowing better.



    Hopefully the players have this taped and read it every day: (Please add all you can!)

    (1) "This episode represents a calculated and deliberate attempt to avoid longstanding rules designed to encourage fair play and promote honest competition on the playing field," Goodell

    (2) Boston Globe: 9/13/07

    With spying accusations leveled this week against the Patriots, some of the Eagles left from the NFC title team are wondering if New England used bootleg film to their advantage in the Super Bowl. "Do I think about it? Mmm hmmm," said Brown, their starting cornerback. "It's crazy. I just don't know how far back it goes. Something's not right about that." Pro Bowl safety Brian Dawkins found the accusations troublesome. "Now there's always going to be questions about the situation," Dawkins said Thursday. "Was it great adjustments at halftime or what?" "I was like, 'Man, I never saw that many screens," Brown said. Brown wonders if it was normal playcalling from a team good enough to win three Super Bowls in four seasons, a Patriots team that used a strong scouting report to gain a fair edge, or was somebody picking up the Eagles defensive calls from a sideline camera that deprived them of a fair shot?

    (3) Boston Globe, 9/13/07

    In Pittsburgh, Steelers receiver Hines Ward reflected on the AFC Championship game from the 2001 season, a 24-17 Patriots victory. Ward said he felt the Patriots had some unusual help in that game. "Oh, they knew. They were calling our stuff out," he said. "They knew a lot of our calls. You would hope that during their run, when they were winning all their [three] Super Bowls, all that stuff wasn't going on. It seemed like they were a step ahead of us at all times, but those games are behind us. There's nothing we can do about it. You just look forward and see what the commissioner will do."

    (4) Boston Globe, 9/13/07

    Giants defensive end Michael Strahan, speaking on a conference call with Wisconsin reporters, had questions regarding the Patriots. "It just makes you wonder how long they've been doing this and did it really help them win some games," he said. "And if they've been doing it in those games that they've won Super Bowls in or playoff [games]. That team has won some big games."

    (5) Boston Globe, 9/13/07

    Jacksonville defensive end Paul Spicer wasn't surprised at the investigation of the Patriots' alleged tactics. "This ain't news," he said. "I've heard it in the past. They finally got caught. The Patriots got caught. They're busted." Spicer added that commissioner Roger Goodell has "been hard on players; now let's see how hard he's going to be with a team." "They're the ones that have to pay the consequences for it," Spicer said. "If that's the way they feel like they have to get the upper hand, then so be it. Everybody's been running around calling them geniuses for years. What are they going to say now?"

    (6) ESPN, 9/13/07

    Turner told the players that their playbooks would be locked up during their Saturday afternoon walk-through at Gillette Stadium. That was a guarantee. Normally, Turner might not be so overly paranoid about entering another team's stadium. But ever since news spread that the Patriots were videotaping the defensive signals of the New York Jets during New England's 38-14 win last Sunday, extra precautions were being made. "Norv wanted us to know that he was going to be careful," one Chargers player said. "We'd already heard a lot of things about the Patriots in the past. But what happened this week has made everybody a lot more cautious. He was even talking about keeping Patriots employees from entering our hotel."

    (7) ESPN, 9/13/07

    Added an NFC general manager: "The accusation far outweighs what is actually happening. This isn't rampant throughout the league. Now, the arrogance of thinking you could get away with it? That is the beauty of this. … It's the height of arrogance." An AFC executive suggested that Belichick "probably got greedy and let whatever issues he has with [Jets coach Eric] Mangini get the best of him."

    (8) ESPN, 9/11/07

    "It's a league issue, and they are handling it." -- Eric Mangini, New York Jets head coach

    "Hopefully there's a harsh enough penalty that it's not worth it to try to cheat and try to get any advantage that you're not allowed to get. I hope the commissioner is just as harsh on them as he's been on individual players for making mistakes." -- Carson Palmer, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback

    "When you look back, it's scary. I think highly of their coaching staff and their personnel, but if that's the case, that's not right. I would consider it cheating." -- Al Harris, Green Bay Packers cornerback

    "I think the Patriots actually live by the saying, 'If you're not cheating, you're not trying.' They live off that statement. Nothing surprises me really....You keep hearing the different stories about stuff that they do."
    -- LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego Chargers running back
  15. Pat_Nasty

    Pat_Nasty Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    I guess this would be the place for this latest bit of libel from ESPN's Chris Mortenson in a "chat" going on presently --

    I'm not even sure exactly what he's trying to say here, but I am pretty sure that he shouldn't be stating it as fact without providing some sort of sourcing on it.
  16. Sundayjack

    Sundayjack On the Game Day Roster

    Is that what that is? A pay-as-you-release news service? That's fabulous!!

    So, if I felt like it, I could send out a press release from Sundayjack Interglobal Multiservice Manufacturing Corp. on any issue that compels me? What a grand concept!

    Actually, what would be great here is if poor Bob Kimmons, who invited people to "contact" him, actually got his wish. I'm a big supporter of Bob's, but I would like to talk to him about leaving legal malpractice to lawyers, and focusing his concentration on teaching parents how to invade their children's Myspace accounts.
  17. Eugene Chung

    Eugene Chung Practice Squad Player

  18. upstater1

    upstater1 Pro Bowl Player

    That's a great line. Of course, if you've reached the heights of reporting for SI, you can look down on all the other peons and bask in your accomplishments.
  19. BelichickFan

    BelichickFan B.O. = Fugazi PatsFans.com Supporter

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    My two responses are :

    1) How does Mortensen know if many Asst. Coaches and Players don't ?

    2) Until/unless an equal investigation into other teams is done I really don't care :

    Scenario 1 - Patriots are proven to be dirty, other teams are investigated fully and are completely clean.

    Scenario 2 - Patriots are proven to be dirty, other teams are investigated fully and are proven to be dirty.

    Scenario 3 - Patriots are proven to be dirty, other teams aren't investigated.

    Scenario 1 is a problem. Scenarios 2 & 3 aren't (for me).
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2007
  20. Rob0729

    Rob0729 PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Found this in Tom Curran's current article:


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