Before I post this I'd like to say that we have known since at least the 70's of our need to be energy independant. So, we spend money and waste lives while we could have been hard at work achieving energy independance. Sometimes I believe there are just too many religious fanatics to achieve anything except WWIII...hence this post. To all new posters here in the last 6 months or so...check out my Central Asia post...I get to try again on this topic. I also go back to my Central Asia posts...this is why we are still in Iraq and why we will remain in Iraq. I knew when we went into Afghanistan that what we really wanted was to be close to Central Asia. The largest underutilized energy source in the world. Al-Queda could have strangled the entire world with success in that region. Afghanistan served the Taliban and Al-Queda well as it was needed to lay supply lines of energy to and through Pakistan to the East. Iraq is much closer to the untapped treasures of the Caspian Sea. So Afghanistan to the south and Iraq to the west gives America a great presence in the region. Not even the most brilliant of Generals could get America involved in keeping a lid on Al-Queda in that region. We would have had to ally ourselves with Russia and China who are allies now. I posted this before and nobody cared...I posted it at least 3 times. Anyone who takes the time to thouroughly research Central Asia, Al-Queda, Energy and Peak-Oil, Russia/China aliance (newer than the others)...will totally understand all the events that have unfolded since 9/11. We have new PF posters here...so I will post it again...because an in depth, non-partisan discussion of this topic explains most of what we see now. I don't say it's right or wrong or otherwise. It somehow all seems like fate to me and it's where WWIII will intensify and peak sometime in the near future. Does Iran really want nukes to destroy Israel? Or, do they want nukes to keep WWIII out of their backyard? Imagine they ALLY with America imploring all Muslims to destroy Russia and China? Or, they could ALLY WITH RUSSIA AND CHINA AND DESTROY AMERICA...a more dangerous scenario for them really. We are a much safer enemy to ALLY with than Russia and China...don't believe for a minute Iran really likes being allied with Russia...no way anyone could possibly believe that is truthfull. China needs energy...they are driving up most of the world's prices. The Caspian Sea lies to their west. Russia to it's north and now America to it's south. If that doesn't make sense to any world political followers then you've been totally brainwashed by the media into believing all the nit-pick stuff that is reported all the time now.