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  1. patsfan13

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    #24 Jersey

    There's a poll for everything and everything has a poll.

    From The New England Journal of Medicine - which is most likely more reliable and probably has much better access to physicians than does something called "Investors.Com")

    The final sample included 5157 physicians, but 221 of them had an incorrect or incomplete address or were deceased. Of the remaining 4936 physicians, 2130 returned the survey — a response rate of 43.2%. Women made up a smaller proportion of respondents than of nonrespondents (26.8% vs. 31.2%, P<0.001), and the average age of respondents was 1 year older than that of nonrespondents. There were no significant differences associated with practice location (census division or urban vs. rural setting), practice type, or specialty group. There were no significant differences in the characteristics of respondents to different survey waves (for details, see the Supplementary Appendix).

    Overall, a majority of physicians (62.9%) supported public and private options (see Panel A of graph). Only 27.3% supported offering private options only. Respondents — across all demographic subgroups, specialties, practice locations, and practice types — showed majority support (>57.4%) for the inclusion of a public option (see Table 1). Primary care providers were the most likely to support a public option (65.2%); among the other specialty groups, the “other” physicians — those in fields that generally have less regular direct contact with patients, such as radiology, anesthesiology, and nuclear medicine — were the least likely to support a public option, though 57.4% did so. Physicians in every census region showed majority support for a public option, with percentages in favor ranging from 58.9% in the South to 69.7% in the Northeast. Practice owners were less likely than nonowners to support a public option (59.7% vs. 67.1%, P<0.001), but a majority still supported it. Finally, there was also majority support for a public option among AMA members (62.2%).


    Doctors on Coverage ? Physicians’ Views on a New Public Insurance Option and Medicare Expansion | Health Care Reform 2009
     
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    Actually the Poll was conducted scientifically by Investors Business Daily, THe 'poll' you cite was a voluntary survey, sort of like a internet poll with no scientific sampling, weak attempt try again.
     
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    Have you ever made a post that wasn't laughably idiotic?

    Oh look, pf13 is talking out of his ass again:

    http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=506407

    Please, link us to the methodology and how this whopping 1,376 mailed in response from a sample size of 25,600 (probably all the registered Republican Doctors, nice "involuntary response rate" btw) is more "scientific" than the 2130 of 5157 that the New England Journal of Medicine used following a transparent scientific methodology....

    Meanwhile, we can contrast the lack of transparency in the agenda-driven articl you dug up from rightwingnuts.com with this:

    http://healthcarereform.nejm.org/?p=1790

    Funny, I see no such methodology revealed by "investers.com" anywhere on their site, so I anxiously wait to see where you found the "scientifically" conducted poll and survey sent out by them. Such little transparency, what a surprise lol.

    Here's the methodology for the New England Journal of Medicine (that liberal rag that's always issuing voluntary surveys with no scientific sampling):

    http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMp0908239/DC1

    Just say anything to win the argument right PF13? Doesn't matter if you just made it up or not....
     
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    Looks like someone else has already commented on the striking differences between these polls:

    Do doctors support health care reform? IBD says no, NEJM says yes - City of Brass

     
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    The right is so desperate, and supportive of the insurance industry they will post anything to make a point...
     
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    Repair It
    Don't Replace It
    Let Outside Qualified People Study It
    Report It's Contents To The People
    Then And Only Then Pass It
    WHATS THE RUSH

    Do You People Actually Believe And Trust Obama And That Gang Of Grinning Bastrads That Tag Along Behind Pelosi Like Little Baby Ducks Swimming After Their Mother (pig creeps)

    Keep Government Out Of Your Life, Politicians Are Crooks Wearing Suits And That Includes Presidents, Scum.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Harry-Boy, really, think about trying Raisin Bran in the morning or something. You might feel better.
     
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    the majority of Americans don't want this turkey rammed down our throat, the pols know this. The Senate won't publish the legislation before the vote, because they understand the outrage when the taxes and rationing are shoved in people's face. If they thought the legislation would have wide support they would be letting people know what they are doing.

    They wouldn't sneak it in as an amendment to the TARP bill.
     
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    The majority of americans are getting tired of right wing lies, and all of the bull**** that goes along with it..
     
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    I'd sure love to see the methodology then, because IBD is a right-wing rag.

    edit: I see that you were already thoroughly owned.
     
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    So why have the the messiah's numbers tanked so quickly? Along with his buttboys at MSNBC?
     
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    I felt better after I posted that ....................:p
     
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    Actually it's called regression to the mean, and his numbers have stabilized. Not to mention the fact that he's actually remarkably popular considering the giant ****pile he inherited from Bush?
     
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    His strong approve/strong disapprove number is =10% that is in the tank not close to any mean, horrible numbers at this point less than a year into his admin.
     
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    Strong approve/disapprove numbers mean NOTHING. On top of that fact, Rasmussen's approve/disapprove numbers have been outliers since Obama took office.

    Gallup, OTOH, has Obama's approval pegged at 55 percent. But, by all means, keep grasping.
     
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    Rasmussen still has McCain/Palin leading by 12 points.. + or - 15 points..
     
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    What is the date and link on the gallup figure?
     
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    Octobert 1st.

    Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

    The Rasmussen number is way out of line with every other major pollster, and thus only appeals to people who hate Obama.
     

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