6 point underdogs?

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  1. Patsguy05

    Patsguy05 On the Game Day Roster

    Can someone explain to me how the Pats are 3-1 compared to the Chargers 2-3, both lost to Miami and yet the Pats are 6 point underdogs? Does the fact that the game is in SD make that much of a difference or do the "experts" (haha) actually believe that the chargers are that much better?
  2. chrisfx811

    chrisfx811 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Yes and yes. Miami throttled the Pats, and held on to beat SD by 7 iirc.
  3. NJPatsfan26

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    #12 Jersey

    Mediots from ESPN and FOX sports will more than likely be rooting against the Patriots in all the ways they can.

  4. apple strudel

    apple strudel Banned

    The line has no predictive or analytical value other than indicating how many people are betting on what team. That's it.

    Here betters are following conventional wisdom and positing that 1) the Chargers need the win 2) it's the Patriots' second straight road game and 3) no Tom Brady. That's all the thought that's going into it and there's no reason to get your panties in a bunch over something so paltry.
  5. Patsguy05

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    So more of the same is what your saying?
  6. NJPatsfan26

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    Of course....More of the same. There is always going to be a hatred between them and us. Just the way it is.
  7. Patsguy05

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    Hey thanks for the info. I am going to try now to unbunch my panties.
  8. swheeler23

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    The chargers are at home. Playoff teams are suppose to win those. I think the Patriots will win this game. I doubt the Chargers make the playoffs.
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  10. MoLewisrocks

    MoLewisrocks PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

    Homefield alone is generally worth 3. So they are really saying SD by 3 which absent Brady and playing week 2 on the road is not remotely a stretch. If SD weren't struggling adn damn near snake bit in their own right it would likely be SD by 10.
  11. SVN

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    iam surprised it isnt higher. they are 2 and 3 but they played the broncs and panthers too. both teams are better than the chiefs and SF. Plus they still have decent talent all around and havent played well. And they still have their QB which is a big factor.At home on national tv against a backup QB. iam not surprised its 6pt dogs for the chargers.
  12. PATRIOT64

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    Very simple equation....

    With Brady - Likely spread would be .... Patriots -2 1/2 over SD
    Without Brady .... Patriots +6 vs. SD

    Its about what I expected
  13. PATRIOT64

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    What do you mean they haven't played well?

    If it were not for a jump ball catch by a Panther in the end zone and a bogus referee call against Denver the Chargers would be 4-1 right now

    If they could have scored on that goaline against Miami last week they could have tied the score in that game and went on to win and would have been undefeated - IF IF IF all those things happened which did not.

    The Chargers may be the most unlucky but best 2-3 team ever but luck has not been on their side

    Don't let 2-3 fool you,they could have easily have been 5-0 if a few things went the right way for them - They are a very good team with a lot of bad luck and we will see if Bad Luck is going to stay sunday night or will they finally break out and destroy thier prey like a bear in the woods like I am afraid they might on prime time.
  14. SVN

    SVN Hall of Fame Poster

    well iam agree they have been unlucky but defensively they haven played as well especially in the secondary like they are capable of.
    i too am worried of a break out game for them sunday night.:(
  15. PATRIOT64

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    Cromartie is definately capable of better, in fact if he matches up against Moss on sunday it will be fun to watch.

    Like I had said in another thread - Jamal Williams at times can be a one man wrecking machine and shut down the run almost as if by himself much like Wilfork when he has one of his great games - I hope we don't see the pro bowl Williams at his best because if he is not Jordan should have a great game.

    To me Ronnie Brown based on his play thus far is the best overall back in the game right now and he shred the Chargers DL - I can see a healthy Jordan doing the same with a little help from Morris
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  16. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

    The spread seems right. I expect us to win, but they are a better team at this point. and they are playing at home. Would it be outragious if it were a pickem' game in Foxboro?
  17. PATRIOT64

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    New England would have been a 1 point favorite at Gillette IMO

    I can't remember the last pick em game in Foxboro or at least while Gillette is standing - Maybe back in 2001 with the Rams visiting was the last?
  18. SVN

    SVN Hall of Fame Poster

    i dont think jordan will play.hope iam wrong.
  19. PATRIOT64

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    I hope you are wrong too,I think Jordan when 100% is our best weapon on offense this season - Jordan moves the chains consistently.

    Maroney is a waste against most solid fronts to which SD has a good one most of the time - Jordan is the type of hard running bruiser that could send Jamal and co. back a few feet at least.

    I expect to see evans getting some more carries than usual in this game as well - The Patriots will most likely try and slow this game down using thier rotation of backs and that is the best way to beat the CHargers and keep Cassel from having to be the guy to win the game - I don't want to see Cassel in that position right now against a solid team like SD - The defense,special teams and rushing attack are keys to beating SD in thier house.
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  20. jmt57

    jmt57 Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

    Though it is true that with one play in each of the three losses going their way the Chargers could be 5-0, I think a lot of the betting public may be going with the Pats due to injury concerns to LT, Gates, and Rivers. In addition, as bad as the Pats have been statistically on offense, the Chargers have been just as bad, or worse, on defense without Merriman. They rank 28th in yards allowed/game, 24th in points/game, 18th against the run and dead last against the pass.
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