Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by PatsFanInMaine, Jun 26, 2008.
Supreme Court has spoken.
They made the right ruling today, in my opinion. 5-4 though... oof. A basic right, and the ruling is 5-4. This is how important the Supreme Court is.
Yeah, I don't like McCain but, the SC might have me leaning to vote for him over Barr. It is really scary, this should of been a 9-0 decision.
waaaah waaaah activist court waaaah waaaah
Exactly why I'm voting McCain over Barr: the Supreme Court.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do when a ruling doesn't go your way and overturns local legislation?
Not when a fundamental right articulate in the Bill of Rights is (finally) upheld...
You mean the right of militia's to bear arms? Just don't pretend it's an indisputable opinion and anyone who disagrees is a "judicial activist." They overturned local legislation and went against the will of the people, which I have no problem with, though I disagree. But when they do the same thing with the child rape ruling right wingers start crying "judicial activism." Bunch of babies.
I'm pro gun control and I use the "militia" wording in my arguments but it's foolish to claim this is an "activist" ruling. Although it's not indisputable, it's clear to me the constitution (plus amendments) leans more to allowing guns that not allowing them.
That said, I would love to amend the constitution to change this.
Needless to say I'm surprised by your stance. But I wasn't being serious. I disagree with the ruling but it's not "judicial activism" whatever that is.
Unlike Patters, I don't just follow the party line. I am mostly Republican but that's because I believe in those philosophies independently. I don't see Republicans supporting guns and say "Oh, OK, Guns rule"
But they ARE cool. Haven't you seen the motor city madman in concert?
No the right of individuals to bear arms, try reading the Federalist papers. Now the USSC has affirmed the right of the individual to do this.
I've read them. I don't believe they are the law of the land though. In fact I'm certain they are irrelevant to this discussion. If the Framers wanted the language from the federalist papers to be invoked by the SC, hey would have used it in the constitution.
I don't know how many times I've said that to people in my life. EVERYONE should have to read them, and the Anti-Federalist papers too.
The Federalist papers discuss the thoughts of the founders on what they put into the constitution. BTW have you found the right to privacy allowing the murdering of unborn infants yet?
That question is as loaded as well, nevermind, it's a poor joke. The historical context of the Federalist papers is it's undoing, and is why they changed the language for the constitution IMO. If they didn't want it to be interpreted, they would have used more specific language. The fact is that they didn't have assault rifles and RPGs back then, and I'm sure there's a line at which you think people should not be able to own certain types of weapons. Why not leave it up to the discretion of the people of DC?
I'm pro-gun control myself. I don't think you should be able to buy a Cruise missle, RPG, or M-1 Abrahams. I also don't think you should be able to walk into a 7-Eleven and buy a .357 with your Slurpie. I think guns should be registered, while owners should be licensed & trained. I've got multiple friends who have licenses to carry concealed here in Mass. I've shot hand guns, rifles, Tek-9's, etc. and I don't want one around. However, I firmly believe in the right to bear arms. Just cuz I don't like guns, doesn't mean that law abiding citizens should be deprived of their constitutional right to own them.
If the liberal judges would enforce current gun laws, there would be no need for new guns laws.
This is a law in Massachusetts
A person found in possession of an illegal gun outside of their home will face a mandatory one year jail sentence. Moreover, if you are committing another crime when found with a concealed weapon, the crime and punishment are both much more severe.
Judges do not enforce these laws.
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