4th and Friggin 29

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  1. PatsGuy

    PatsGuy Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    A 1:52 left in the 4th quarter, San Diego up by three. Baltimore has 4th and 29 and Ray Rice takes a little screen pass and goes for 30!!!!! Ravens then gets into field goal territory ties it up and then win it in OT with another FG :mad:
    Norv Turner is the GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  2. resdubwhite

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    Was it a bad spot? Looked like it
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  3. ivanvamp

    ivanvamp In the Starting Line-Up

    Bad spot plus an illegal block on Boldin that was uncalled (where was that no-call on Gronk in the Arizona game!?!?!?).

    A gift to the Ravens. Gonna make a bye that much harder, folks.
  4. Fixit

    Fixit Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    San Diego deserved to lose for giving up that many yards on 4th and 29, but they got hosed on both the spot and the respot. Rice's knee was down (and indisputably so) before the 35, yet they spotted the ball just inside the 33. So, the refs are saying that the distance from Rice's knee to his midsection (where the ball was) is 4 feet. That might be right, if Ray Rice was 9 feet tall.
  5. Ice_Ice_Brady

    Ice_Ice_Brady In the Starting Line-Up

    Yes, the spot defied all logic. It was impossible to tell the exact spot because of the camera angles, but it was clear that Rice's knee was down before the 35-yard line, and at that exact time, the ball was just across the 35, maybe to the 34.5 being generous. Simple logic is that Rice's knee is down before the 35, his arms are not outstretched, and he is hunkered over, so there is simply no way that the ball is even a yard past the 35.

    The ref gives an unbelievable spot, putting the ball at the 33.5. And that's after reviewing this for about ten minutes.
  6. Brady'sButtBoy

    Brady'sButtBoy 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

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    That was pathetic, and aggravating for Patsfans; no other team seems capable of handing our rivals a major loss. First Jax, then Detroit blows it against Houston, 4 teams could have beaten the Ravens (including us), KC had Denver on the ropes yesterday and failed. It seems the Pats are going to have to do it on their own, which is the way it should be but a little help wouldn't hurt.

    On top of the Chargers choking yesterday, the refs totally botched the spot on that stupefying 4th and 29 conversion. Even after 10 minutes of review they still placed the ball almost a yard ahead of where it should have been - short of the first down line. But in terms of that game only, SD didn't deserve to win that way, if you choke on 4th and 29 you almost should be punished for your failure.
  7. PatsFan2

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    Norv has pictures of the owner that's why he still have a job. You just cannot depend on certain teams.
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  8. groundgame

    groundgame Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    After missing every possible tackle opportunity, the refs (rightfully) are not going to reward San Diego, or go out of their way to nullify Rice's tremendous effort.

    An appropriate head coach replacement for Chargers: Jack Del Rio
  9. Fixit

    Fixit Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Wouldn't have taken a Herculean effort to get the correct spot, especially after the review.
  10. Pat the Pats Fan

    Pat the Pats Fan In the Starting Line-Up

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    Ratbirds continue to pull games out of their @ss.
    They have a tough next five games, all against teams still in the playoff hunt. They play better at home, actually haven't lost at home is quite a while, but I could see them losing any of them the way their offense is playing.
    Steelers home
    Redskins on road
    Broncos home
    Giants home
    Bengals on road
  11. mtbykr

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    Horrible spot both on play and review.....really disturbing how it all played out
  12. BlueThunder

    BlueThunder PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    If Pats keep playing the way they have been, they will finish with a better record than the *****birds. :rocker:
  13. TinhWoodhead

    TinhWoodhead On the Game Day Roster

    Norv Turner's reaction after the play: "Aw shucks, oh well....."
  14. The_Riddler

    The_Riddler 2nd Team Getting Their First Start

    - How does Norv Turner still have a job ?

    - How do 3 SD defenders all bunch up together to tackle Ray Rice and leave the entire left side of the field open to allow Rice to make that cut to the left ? Odds of that play happening again are equivalent to one hitting PowerBall - #Fate and #PissPoorJudgement and #OurLuck

    - How do the officials, even after seeing Rice's knee down and the ball at or just barely over the 35 yard line actually RE-SPOT the ball at the 33 and a half yard line ? #WhatTheEffWereTheyLookingAt #AreYouBleepinMe?

    - (Flacco = Horseshoe up ass): Thows a 3rd and 10 low percentage deep out pass that is high and miracuously caught by the finger tips by a very well covered Torry Smith. How the eff did that happen ? #Fate #PissMeTheEffOff
  15. CANNOT BELIEVE the spot on that ball. I usually dont get worked up about officiating because its just a necessary xfactor of every game- but this one was bad. Even Ray Rice sounded shady in his description of the spot after the game http://bit.ly/U7y1K6.

    Bad calls that affect game winners are as bad as ties in football. No one wins.
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  16. PlainOldEd

    PlainOldEd Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    If you look at the replay of the spot at the time when they froze it to show Ray's knees were down you could clearly see the SD defenders foot was just over the 35 (by 6 inches or so), and the ball was partially obscured by the leg. Therefore the ball must have been behind the leg and within a few inches of the 35. The Pats got screwed twice by the refs in games they weren't even playing.


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    I gotta admit...that last block by Anquan Boldin was absolutely amazing and was the difference in getting to that yard marker,Rice has no chance of making it if Boldin doesn't block that guy.
  18. Fencer

    Fencer Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Refs may be good at lawyer-type stuff, but they're very bad at spatial reasoning.

    Probably the example we've discussed the most is the trajectory of the ball that Ben Watson knocked out of Champ Bailey's grip, although I'll confess to finally having forgotten some of the details.
  19. patsfan13

    patsfan13 Hall of Fame Poster PatsFans.com Supporter

    As bad as the spot was the missed block in the back call on Bolden (that injured Weddle btw) was what really ticked me off. Weddle was in position to make a hit at the 40 yd line, 6 yds short of the first down.
  20. deroc5050

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    We have a chance to catch the Ravens.. although our schedule is not exactly a cake walk with SF and Houston coming to town. I would be shocked if Houston doesn't go 14-2 with their schedule. It feels like we are going to have to win out to secure a first round bye.
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