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46 percent of Mississiippi Republicans oppose interracial marriage

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    America has come a long way, 40 years ago it would have been 95% 60 years ago it would have been 100%.

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    So about half of the Republicans lag behind by 60 years. I guess that's progress.

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    To see progress all one has to do is "look around" I remember when water was poured into beer as a silent warning of "don't come in here again" that went on right in Cambridge.

    Also, to see progress all one has to do is attend one of my family cookouts.
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    There's no soft-soaping that poll but before everyone one gets all puffy chested I wonder how much different the results would be in Mississippi if white Dems were asked the same question. I have a feeling they'd poll way differently there than here in MA for example.
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    I wonder what the results would be if they dared to ask The Black Dems that same question especially the Jeremiah Wright Congregation and the Louis Farrakhan gang?
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    My assumption is that the white Dems. would be opposed at a much lower rate then Rep. It definitely would much higher then a Ma. poll. It hasn't been that long ago when dancing was outlawed in some of these places. Proms are still subject to restrictions (mixed dating). I'm not really that old, but when I lived outside of Waco, it was illegal to dance at Baylor.
    There was a reason why Haley Barbour did not voice concerns on some of the recent historic initiatives in his state.
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    The south is way behind on race period. I'll concede Dems are a little more tolerant but I think a lot of that is for appearance.
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    They wouldn't ask white Dems cuz PPP is a democratic party polling firm.

    Regardless of the methodology, or who was asked, really Mississippi? It's the year 2011 people. WTF? :mad:
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    It's a regional thing, not a party thing. I bet a very low number of Repubs in CT would oppose interracial marriage. Come on, Patters, you're better and smarter than that crap you've posted today.

    Parts of the south. Growing up in Va Beach, I saw far more interracial couples than I've seen anywhere else, except maybe the Raleigh-Charlotte corridor.
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    I think it's that conservative part of his gray matter that is causing him to mistrust a group of people.:rolleyes:
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    I have to agree here. This part of Virginia is a huge hodge-podge of bi-racial relationships of all kinds. No one would blink an eye at anything or anyone, I don't think.

    In fact, when I first moved here I was picking MrP up at the Pentagon train station and I was the only one who stopped for a second and stared in delighted amazement as 8 saffron-robed Buddhist monks, all carrying Macy's shopping bags, crossed the street.

    It's just not something you see in Indiana.
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    Absolutely correct RW. This pole tells us about residents of Mississippi, but NOTHING about replicans on a nation level.

    The purpose (and Patters should know better) of the poll was to attempt to paint ALL republicans on a national basis from a stupid little poll in.....MISSISSIPPI of all places.

    Talk about having an agenda!

    BTW....I'd LOVE to walk hand-in-hand with a beautiful chocolate woman down the streets of "Anywhere" Mississippi!! Screw all the backwoods folks!
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    I used to go out with a half jamaican girl. Mmmmmmmm....but I digress.

    The people polled should be neutered, but the regional aspect has to be considered. It's not representitive of all "republicans", but that is the desired effect it's makers want with respect to the general public. We're a headline society. A 20 minutes or less, drive-thru, instant microwave dinner or it's free type people. How many will see that and use it to point out how racist "republicans" are. Those republicans who replied certainly are, but is a pub/dem in Mass identical to one in North Dakota? Of course not.

    One thing I'd like to point out about polls like this is how they can get a desired result by polling people in specific places through automated telephonic polling. For example, if I /called/polled people in Chelsea Mass and asked them constroversial questions I'm sure I could get some sensational results. Same for Roxbury or Southie maybe. Those same questions asked of people in Winchester or the Berkshires would likely have completely different results. So while we can say without a doubt that there are some seriously disturbed racist people in Mississippi, you can't certify that all Mississipians, or even people in different parts of that state, all feel this way.
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    Actually this poll represents nothing. It is a push poll that is weighted and the polling company won't release the weighting.

    Explained at the link:

    Of a certain Mississippi poll on marriage, and of those who make hay of it | RedState



    Apparently a dishonest smear by the pollster, to fool the gullible and play on people's prejudices ironically.
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    I actually thought the number was flawed...I thought it should be higher and prolly would be if the Bubbas down there had the guts to tell the truth. Obviously many of them did. I'm betting there were many who lied because they don't want to be seen as a racist.

    Same would go for Massachusetts. Lotsa people would openly consent (as if that were ever required these days) to inter-racial marriage...as long as it wasn't their kid.
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    For the life of me, I can't understand why somone of ANY race would be against interracial marriage. It's just skin color....WTF??

    But you're prolly right that many people are afraid to admit that they're against it. A lot of people seem to worry about what others think too much. We'd be better off if people would just be honest and admit their true beliefs. That's why I don't like political correctness.
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    Very true. DC/NoVa has to be one of the most diverse parts of the country. I go down there on business almost 15-20 times a year and it's quite the change of pace from central CT. I'm one of the deranged ones who doesn't mind NoVa in the least. After all, I'm a proud Virginian!

    But...

    NoVa, while technically in the south, is definitely not very southern feeling, except that there's a Chick Fil-A in Fairfax. :p
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    How was it a push poll, other than the guy at your link saying so? (I did scan the link, and it didn't explain that, as far as I can tell.)
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    What did surprise me about it was that the question was about legality, not whether the respondent personally opposed it.
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    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MS_0407915.pdf

    Last line of the press release from the polling company...

    <<<PPP surveyed 400 usual Mississippi Republican primary voters from March 24th to 27th.
    The survey’s margin of error is +/-4.9%. Other factors, such as refusal to be interviewed
    and weighting, may introduce additional error that is more difficult to quantify.>>>>
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    That's about weighting of the sample, isn't it? (which 13 and the source brought up and I did not question)

    I think push poll has to do with the phrasing of the question -- that the respondent is "pushed" toward one answer. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the phrasing of the question.
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    IIRC the pollster did not reveal the question sequence. The weighting and the surrounding facts (no polling of dems for comparison and so on) do indicate an agenda, and brings the usefulness of the poll into question.
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    Dems were polled, supposedly, but the results not released yet.

    I have no doubt about an agenda, but if that's the basis, we can reject a lot of pollsters' results, since many of them align w/one party or another.

    I'm skeptical of this poll, just wondering about the "push" part -- but fair point re question sequence.
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    There is certainly a lot of questionable polling. In this case it is closer to propaganda than an attempt to understand societal attitudes.

    BTW I would be curious to see a poll of black women and who they feel about interracial relationships. MAny I work with do not care for black men going out with women of other races rather than black women.
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    Halle Berry doesn't come to mind when I think of the image of these black women that you working with, I could be wrong tho.
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    This is what I was getting at earlier, though -- the thing that I thought was shocking about the results (assuming they're valid, of course) was that it addressed legality versus approval.

    I don't doubt that many blacks, especially black women, dislike blacks dating whites (again, particularly black men dating white women -- maybe because that's much more revalent than the other way around?). But I would be shocked if they wanted it to be illegal.
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    A lot of the women I work with are very pretty IMO, but they aren't supermodels, they are working class women, many unmarried supporting children without help from the children's fathers.
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    I can't find a sex-specific poll but I did find this from 2005 which claims that blakcs and hispanics are somewhat more likely to approve of interracial dating than white people are.

    Most Americans say they approve of interracial dating. Even though a majority of whites approve, they are somewhat less likely to approve of interracial dating than are blacks or Hispanics.

    As expected:

    Younger Americans are much more likely to approve of interracial dating and to have dated someone from a different racial or ethnic background.

    and this - which is not about approval but a response of people who've actually dated interracially.

    Black men (64%) are significantly more likely to say they have dated a nonblack than are black women (42%). Hispanic men (74%) are also more likely than Hispanic women (65%) to say they have dated a non-Hispanic. White men (48%) are about as likely as white women (43%) to have dated a nonwhite.

    Overall, blacks are much more likely to say they have dated a white (44%) than a Hispanic (28%) or an Asian (12%). Hispanics are twice as likely to say they have dated a white (64%) than a black (34%), and only 19% of Hispanics have dated an Asian. Whites are slightly more likely to say they have dated a Hispanic (29%) than a black (24%) or an Asian (18%).


    Most Americans Approve of Interracial Dating

    Opps - this poll seems to be more current: 81% of whites feel interracial dating is acceptable and 97% of blacks feel that is is.

    There have also been striking changes since the late 1980s in how people of different races view black-white dating. In 1987-88, fewer than half of whites (44%) said that interracial dating was acceptable; that number has nearly doubled (to 81%) in the current survey. Two decades ago, about three-quarters of blacks (74%) felt interracial dating was acceptable. Today, nearly all African Americans (97%) believe that interracial dating is acceptable.

    http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=285
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