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40 years ago today.. the Kent State Massacre..

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  1. DarrylS

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    "4 Dead in Ohio" is not only a haunting antiwar anthem, but a reminder of one of a very significant event in american history.. the Ohio National Guard, fired 67 shots into a crowd of demonstrators in Kent State.. 13 were injured and 4 died.. this ignited the anti war movement and was one of the issues that led to Richard Nixon's downfall..

    The Nixon comments that we would start to bomb Cambodia ignited this furor, as the plan was to expand the war in Southeast asia.. in Kent State there were demonstrations, and two days prior the protestors burnt down a ROTC bldg.. but these were unarmed students shot in the midst of military madness....

    What ensued was probably the greatest mobilization of anything ever witnessed, as most of all of the colleges and universities shut down as a result of the student strikes.. never seen so much anger by a group of people after that senseless act...

    1970 Kent State shootings are an enduring history lesson - USATODAY.com

    And of course there is a comparison made by some that the Tea Party is a comparable movement, which is at best Epic Fail.. and of course World Net Daily has discovered that the guardsman were shot at.. and of course that J. Edgar Hoover botched the investigation.. if he could have J. Edgar would have placed the blame precisely on the student protestors.. but the evidence was as it is now a slaughter of innocents protesting an unjust war...
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    What a piece if crap, bullsh1t thread this is....
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    Why read it?? or even comment.. what a freaking tool.

    I am sorry will ask next time I post something to insure it meets your criteria for political correctness..

    glad to see the censorship police are up early, and have to assume that you think it is ok for the Nat Guard to fire 67 rounds on unarmed protestors.. killing 4 and wounding 13.. 2 of the 4 killed were not even involved in the protest, they were students walking from class to class..

    Those who do not their history, are condemned to repeat it..
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    Why the name calling! Isn't this against patsfans rules?
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    Such a terrible event, we can all agree.

    However, I wonder if you are the type of person who thinks "oh those poor British soldiers" when discussing the Boston Massacre.
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    "Gov't kills students...reminds me of the Tea Party" "Tea Party = Racists" All of the preceding is the thinking of a fool.

    HOw about...

    "Gov't kills students - Yet liberals want BIGGER gov't" Now, THAT'S more like it!
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    Some liberals want bigger government, most of us want more responsible government.. speaking in generalizations shows a lack of intelligence.. and a lack of understanding the big picture..

    It is a liberal post, therefore certain things can be assumed..
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    There is no need to fire on unarmed people no matter what the situation...

    Do not get your post as you assume I feel bad for the National Guard, personally feel bad for the victims of any massacre.... it makes no sense.
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    MOST liberal want bigger gov't...don't kid yourself.

    And you have the gall to write,

    "speaking in generalizations shows a lack of intelligence.. and a lack of understanding the big picture."

    When you have attempted to broadly paint the Tea Party and/or conservatives as racists...

    Hello Kettle!:nono:
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    Not sure why this is a bad thread -- I'm glad Darryl mentioned it, as it's an event very much worth remembering (but I wouldn't have realized it was today).

    Most Republicans, too. Just a matter of how you want to look at the government.
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    Chico, it would have been fine topic if Darryl hadn't "slipped in" some BS about the Tea Party.

    He's done this numerous times. He once brought up the Oklahoma City bombing anniversary and slipped in some anti-conservative or Tea Party comment.

    he always has other motives....ALWAYS.
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    The "Mexican Tea Partys Make The Conservative Tea Partys look like a Tea Party"

    Kent State:
    I wish there were some of those 60's Anti War Protesters around today to take care of "Obama The War Monger"

    Obama's drones are killing women and children, Obama's liberal groupies don't care they are busy getting criminal illegal aliens on welfare.

    President Obama's Aunt Zucchini Is A Criminal Friggin Leech A Free Loading Bum.
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    Just to set the historical record straight, those hippies were yelling vile stuff at the National Guardsmen. And threw human feces (crap).

    It's enough to set off 19-year-olds armed with automatic weapons. Those firebrands were literally playing with fire. This is not to excuse shooting unarmed civilians--something never acceptable--but to put it in the proper perspective.
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    pretty much irrelevant in the context of shooting

    (If you want to offer it as an explanation for punching somebody in the face, fine.)

    Throwing feces does, imo, provide some perspective (assuming it's true) -- as opposed to yelling "vile things." (But as you acknowledge, in no way excuses it.)

    19 year olds with automatic weapons may not be the best idea -- but I suppose that's a different matter.
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    Kent State was wrong and very sad, I agree.

    Which reminds me of the Tea Party!:rolleyes:
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    4 spoiled brat malcontents died.

    50,000+ brave soldiers died trying to prevent S. Vietnam from being enslaved...and weren't allowed to fight all out and bomb Hanoi to pieces lest we offend the Chinese and Russians.

    That's the tragedy.

    Meanwhile at home, students were carrying pictures of their hero Ho Chi Minh and calling our boys baby killers. Good riddance to them. I wish they all got shot. Can you imagine students carrying pictures of Hitler and Tojo during WWII?
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    Do you recognize the hypocrisy within your own post?
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    Welcome to the club, the lemmings welcome you with open arms..
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    Here is what I said.. sorry that you cannot read and just asssume, there are people out there making this comparison today.. to bad you cannot accept the truth.

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    Source??? They were about 100 yards away when it happened.. guess they had great arms..

    Thanks not sure anyone knew what feces were...
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    Yeah, especially the two killed who were walking from one class to another, were not part of the protest and who were approximately 400 feet away. How dare those spoiled brat malcontents be attempting to get an education. How dare they!!!!

    Different than Tea Party protesters, I'm sure. Totally different.
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    Okay, not to pick on you MrsP but any comparisons between Kent State and anything other than war protests need to stop now. It's stretching the truth to fit a mindset.
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    Do not get that comment, two were not involved in the protest it is well documented that they were going from class to class and they were "collateral damage"...
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    I meant that everyone keeps bringing up tea parties and other irrelevant comparisons to events or people. This was about a war protest and can be lined up with other war protests.
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    Holy Jesus Jumping Christ now you've done it, there are at least three liberals on here that are ready to set themselves on fire.

    I watched some of those same kind of students spitting and throwing garbage at a US Soldier simply because he was wearing his uniform walking through Harvard Sq during the Viet Nam War, it was about the same time That Communist Pig Jane Fonda gave one of her Anti American speeches, it was disgusting I would at the time loved to have seen one of those Student Bastards shot dead right on Mass Ave, then Stabbed.
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    Liberals in here aren't really subject to the same rules that conservatives are. Plus Darryl is the leading hypocrite when it comes to someone who loves to dish out the insults, but cries like a baby the moment he receives one.
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    +1. If it was an honest tribute to the events of that fateful day, that would be fine. But the OP just can't help himself. He has to take something that happened 40 years ago and try to use it to paint modern day conservatives as eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil tea partiers.
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    Not to mention it has nothing to do with liberal vs conservative. It was simply a tragedy.
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    AMEN khayos!! NOTHING has to do with "Liberal vs Conservative"...people just like to believe it does, but it's a form of self-delusion.
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    Things were pretty touchy back then, this was just a month after some of Bill Ayers followers blew themselves up in Greenwich Village assempling a bomb he designed to blow up soldiers at Fort Dix NJ.

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