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  1. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    Ok, boy and girls this is the next to the last time we will be doing this exercise in futility ( unless someone else post 5 more threads similar to this):D

    Rules:

    Using the Sportsline and/or Pro Football Weekly Ranking, make your patriots picks. You can go up 3 places in the ranking during the 1st round(at #27 you can go up as high as #24) and five places for the 2nd through 7th rounds ( I know the Patriots don't have picks in the 5th 6th and 7th at this time)

    no trades until after you do the straight up draft. After that, have at it.

    No mocking other peoples draft until you have posted your mock to be mocked.

    Patriots have picks #27,31,48, 63,93,126.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/drafttracker

    NFL Draft - 2012 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

    ProFootballWeekly.com - Draft Rankings

    THE HUDDLE REPORT - NFL DRAFT

    The Huddle Report - NFL Draft Research and Analysis

    Best of luck to you all.:cool:
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    27 - Kendall Reyes
    31 - Shea McClellan
    48 - Harrison Smith
    63 - Marvin Jones
    93 - Casey Hayward
    126 - Derek Wolfe

    2 DE, 1 S, 1 CB, 1 WR, 1 OLB and not an underachiever among them.
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    I used CBS Sportsline data. Here goes:

    27. Perry, LB
    31. Barron, S
    48. Givens, WR
    63. Jones, C
    93. Randall, DL
    126. Prater, CB

    With trades:

    27. (traded to Atlanta, which takes Fleener, we get #55 + 2013 1st)
    55. McClellin, LB
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    27. Whitney Merciles DE/OLB

    31. Mark Barron S

    48. Jared Crick DT/DE

    63. Brandon Boykin CB

    93. Alameda Ta'amu DT

    126. Jake Bequette DE/OLB
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    27. Dre Kirkpatrick CB/S
    31. Nick Perry OLB/DE
    48. Whitney Mercilus OLB/DE
    63. Brian Quick WR
    93. Jared Crick DE/DT
    126. Shea McClellin OLB/DE
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    27. S. Gilmore CB
    31. Barron SS
    48. McClellin OLB
    63. Winn DE
    93. Ta'amu DT
    126.J Wright Wr
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    I used CBS. PFW has some weird, weird ratings. I like them, because I can get all my target players, but I don't believe or trust them at all.

    27 Devon Still
    31 Andre Branch
    48 Jamell Fleming
    63 Brandon Brooks
    93 Derek Wolfe
    126 Louis Nzegwu

    Would have liked to find a way to include Ron Brooks, Reuben Randle, and Demario Davis. Big fan of those players.
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    I'll go with the Sportsline rankings first.

    #27 Mark Barron S Ala ( if only this was true)
    #31 Donta Hightower ILB/OLB Ala (if only this was true)
    #48 Shea McClellen, OLB Doise (Mayock just got me on his bandwagon tonight)
    #63 Ben Jones C Ga
    # 93 Alamela Ta'amu DT Washington (I'd rather trade down this pick)

    #126 Nick Toon WR Wisc - Reminds me of David givens and it will piss off the Jets fans.
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    Sportsline on the left or what I call the side of reason and PFW on the right or what I call the no way side.

    Devon Still DT 27 Dre Kirkpatrick CB
    Mark Barron S 31 Jerel Worthy DT
    Lamar Miller (Binkey alert) RB 48 Whitney Mercilus DE\OLB
    Jared Crick DE 63 Lamar Miller (Binkey!) RB
    Greg Childs WR 93 Matt Reynolds OL
    Trevin Wade CB 126 Dajohn Harris DL

    Maybe I like the sportsline draft better hmm, better drink this over.
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    27 Devon Still
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    27. Kendall Reyes
    31. Andre Branch
    48. Harrison Smith
    63. Trumaine Johnson
    93. Alameda Ta'amu
    126. Joe Adams/Philip Blake/Derek Wolfe
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    27 Stephon Gilmore (Safety)
    31 Dont'a Hightower
    48 Shea McClellin
    63 Chase Minnifield
    93 Greg Childs
    126 Ryan Broyles

    Competition/Insurance
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    I used CBS. I'll probably throw something at the tv if we draft db's early. But, my guess is we will.

    1a Stephon Gilmore - CB - South Carolina - Pushes McCourty and will play in sub-packages. Insurance if Dowling isn't what we hoped.

    1b Mark Barron - S- Alabama - Too good to pass up.

    2a Vinny Curry - OLB - Marshall - I think he can start his rookie year.

    2b Billy Winn - DE - Boise St - He's closer to Still/Reyes than any db's we'd pick here would be to Gilmore/Barron.

    3 Cam Johnson - OLB - Virginia - Big, strong, smart, tough prospect.

    4 Joe Adams - WR - Arkansas - Need to help that return game. Maybe eventual replacemet for Welker if he learns the offense.

    I'm assuming Light and Waters come back. No roster space available if they do. That's why I didn't take any OL.
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    27 - Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State
    31 - Mark Barron S Alabama
    48 - Whitney Mercilus DE Illionis (this one isn't fair)
    63 - Brian Quick WR Appalachian State
    93 - Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
    126 - Matt Reynolds OT B.Y.U.
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    Using CBS

    27 Devon Still
    31 Mark Barron
    48 Jayron Hosley
    63 Ben Jones
    93 Greg Childs
    126 Jonathan Massaquoi

    Not overly impressed with this Draft. On to the trades....
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    using the PFW rankings:

    27 Gilmore CB SC
    31 Reyes DT/DE Uconn
    48. Steven Hill WR Ga Tech
    63 Ben Jones C Ga
    93 Alameda Ta'mua DT Washington
    126 Shea MCClellin OLB Boise
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    27 DL Branch
    31 DE Reyes
    48 CB Denard
    62 OLB McClellan
    93 FS Martin
    127 C Blake

    with trades
    Trade #27 to ATL for 2013 1st and 2012 #55
    #55 OLB Curry

    SUMMARY
    3 defensive front seven
    2 defensive backs
    1 center
    plus a 2013 1st
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    Using CBS:

    27 Mark Barron
    31 Donta Hightower
    48 Jamell Fleming
    62 Ronnell Lewis
    93 Marvin Jones (or Ryan Broyles)
    127 Akiem Hicks

    That is my perfect draft.
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    27 - Gilmore - FS
    31 - Nick Perry - DE
    48 - Zack Brown - coverage LB / safety
    63 - Josh Norman - CB
    93 - Ta'amu - DL
    126 - Chapman - DL
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    Without trades

    CBS:
    27 Kendall Reyes, DE
    31 Andre Branch, DE/OLB
    48 Alfonzo Dennard, CB
    63 Mohammad Sanu, WR
    93 Michael Brewster, C
    126 DaQuan Menzie, CB (convert to FS)

    PFW:
    27 Dre Kirkpatrick, CB
    31 Kendall Reyes, DE
    48 Whitney Mercilius, DE/OLB (no chance of him being there)
    63 James Brown, OT
    93 Marquis Maze, CB/FS
    126 Robert Turbin, RB
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    My perfect draft based on CBS

    27. Gilbert CB/FS
    31 Reyes- DT/DE
    48 McCellin DE/OLB
    62 Johnson CB/FS
    93 Mike Brewster C
    127 Ryan Broyles WR/KR

    Fills all the apparent needs with a bit more attention to the DB. Broyles gets us a young productive WR on a red shirt year so he doesn't clutter up the WR situation....further

    My perfect draft based on what I expect to be available

    27. Barron - S - Gilbert is long gone and S is such an issue that it has to be met. Barron is the best option - He's a better value that Reyes
    31 - McClellin - DE/OLB - Mercilus is long gone - Ryan Kerrigan clone
    46- Thompson- DT - quick first step -
    63 - Johnson - CB/FS - long DB with good ball skills
    93- Matt McCants OT - but only if Light retires
    126 -Ryan Broyes - WR - see above
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    Using CBS again:

    Pick 27 Traded for 2013 1st round pick.
    Broncos give up a 2013 1st round pick along with the 57 and 188 picks in this year's draft. No idea why the Broncos would do this but they did trade up for Tim Tebow once! Used the Mark Ingram trade last year with the Saints as a guideline.

    Pick 31 Kendall Reyes DT
    3-4 End who will contribute as a 1 gap player in the first year as he learns to 2-gap and refine his technique.

    Pick 56 Josh Robinson CB
    With a trade down the Patriots are wowed by the elite athleticism shown by Robinson at the combine.

    Pick 57 Shea McClellin OLB
    Like Reyes, will contribute on passing downs as he refines his game to establish himself as a bonafide NFL starter.

    Pick 91 Greg Childs WR
    The Patriots gamble on the health of Greg Childs, swayed by his stellar 2010 tape and potential to be a legitimate outside threat. Patriots could easily have picked fellow binky Marvin Jones here.

    Pick 97 Markelle Martin FS
    Patriots gamble at the top of the fourth round on a potential starting safety. Plenty of question marks but could end up plugging a big gap in the Patriots secondary.

    Pick 114 Traded for 2013 3rd
    BB just couldn't resist parlaying a mid fourth round pick into a top 96 pick next year signalling the point at which he is ready to take a punt on developmental players, siuational role players and others with question marks.

    Pick 117 Malik Jackson DE
    Patriots add a developmental (albeit expensive) 3-4 end who requires a year or so in the weight room but could contribute early as a versatile nickel pass rusher

    Pick 135 Jonathan Massaquoi OLB
    Again the Patriots take a flyer. This time they select another nickel pass rusher who has excellent measurables to become a real threat to opposing QBs. Also to be groomed to take on more OLB duties in time.

    Pick 150 Quentin Saulsberry OC
    The Patriots are paying Dan Connolly starter money, so the Patriots pick an experienced SEC O-lineman to develop behind primary backup Ryan Wendell, possibly on the Practice Squad.

    Pick 168 Tom Compton OG
    Another elite athlete to be groomed by Dante Scarnecchia as OG or to backup OT.

    Pick 173 George Bryan TE
    Underrated blocking TE. Strictly a Practice Squad candidate at this stage.

    Pick 184 Andrew Datko OT
    Injured O-lineman whose stock plummeted in his final year due to injury. Will have to check out medically but has the potential to be a solid NFL level player in the future. Starts on PUP to rehab and come back and challenge in 2013

    Pick 185 Dajohn Harris DT
    Intriguing D-lineman who failed to consistently play to his immense potential in college but could boost the Patriots interior pass rush on 3rd down.

    Pick 197 Ryan Broyles WR
    Again, the Patriots pick up a senior year injury victim whose stock has fallen rapidly. Shades of Bradndon Tate as he recovers on PUP in his first year.

    Pick 205 Brandon Bolden RB PS
    The Patsriots like SEC running backs and need another project to develop on the Practice Squad and so pick one up in the 7th round.

    Pick 211 Ron Brooks CB Nickel
    Fantastic value as the Patriots take the versatile LSU defender with their last pick. Could be a real steal and solve a problem as a slot or nickel corner back.


    Trades in full
    Trade 27 to Broncos for 2013 1st, 57, 188
    Trade 62 & 93 to Steelers for 56,119,193
    Trade 48 & 126 to Dolphins for 72, 73 and 196
    Trade 72 & 188 to Eagles for 88, 114, 153
    Trade 73 to Packers for 90, 123, 163 & 224
    Trade 88 to Colts for 97 & 136
    Trade 114 for 2013 3rd
    Trade 123 to Cowboys for 152 & 186
    Trade 163 to Redskins for 173 & 213
    Trade 153 to Giants for 167 & 201
    Trade 193 & 201 for 190 & 205 (Had to cheat a little here to get DaJohn Harris and Brandon Bolden)

    The Patriots war room was intent on setting a draft record for the most amount of trades in a single draft. BB was especially gracious in picking up a number of my binkies that I recommended to him. Now let's hope he doesn't cut them in camp ....

    And it doesn't stop there. The UDFA class is pretty good too, especially the depth at WR.


    UDFA
    BJ Cunningham WR
    Junior Hemingway WR
    Keshawn Martin WR
    Marquis Maze WR
    Lance Lewis WR
    Patrick Edwards WR
    Travis Benjamin WR
    Robert Blanton CB
    Winston Guy SS
    Sammy Brown OLB
    Cliff Harris CB
    Dominique Hamilton DE
    Kentrell Lockett DE
    Rennie Moore OLB
    David Snow OC
    Miles Burris LB
    Scott Solomon OLB


    Disclaimer:
    There is a bound to be a mistake or two littered through the mock. And you know BB definitely will not pick any of these players now.
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    Using NFL Draft Scout on CBS Sports (4/5)

    27. Kendall Reyes DT UConn
    31. Shea McClellin LB Boise St (actually think he would be drafted 1st and Reyes would be at 31 in the real draft. McClellin is the fastest riser in the draft going from a 5th rd pick to possibly a 1st rd pick)
    48. Josh Robinson CB Central Florida (I have been on him since the combine - his speed made everyone go back and look at tape of him - especially against AJ Green)
    63. Brandon Brooks OG/OT Miami (OH) (Best player not invited to the combine)
    94. * Ron Brooks CB LSU (I expect this pick to be traded)
    126. Brandon Hardin S Oregon St. (taking a big chance on a player with injury history)


    * Expect the pick to be traded for two later picks like 113 and 158

    113. Tom Compton OG/OT South Dakota
    158. Devon Wylie WR Fresno St (Need WR that cam also be ST player - roster can only have one WR that doesn't play ST. Big battle between Stallworth and Ochocinco)
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    27 Barron S Alabama
    31 Hightower OLB Alabama
    48 Crick DE Nebraska
    62 Fleming DB Oklahoma
    93 Malik Jackson DE/OLB Tennessee
    126 Bolden DB Arizona State
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