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Only 3 more weeks until the draft. Given todays date I could put up a ranking from last year but I won't do that, not that I didn't want to.

Using either one of the rankings below, or a combination of both, you make the Patriots picks. You can pick up to 5 spots above the Patriots draft slot,example: #22 you can go up to 17 ect. You can make trades but try to make them make sense using the trade value chart.

NFL Draft - 2010 Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Scout.com: 2010 NFL Draft Rankings

Here is the draft order by team as of now. Patriots pics are

PATRIOTS 22 44 48 53 - 119 - 190 205 229 231 247 248 250

2010 NFL DRAFT

And a trade value chart

Draft Countdown - Trade Value Chart

This will be the last one that I put up before the draft so make your picks count. Also no one mocks and ridicules another persons picks until you have done yours to be mocked and ridiculed.

Ok one ranking may have a player ranked higher or lower. It doesn't make any difference which ranking you use on a pick, just don't reach up more than 5 places from the Patriots spot.

I believe you have all the tools you need to have a fun and fruitful time making your picks.
 
Waiting for someone to step up, are ya?

#22 Sergio Kindle OLB TX
#44 Tyson Alualu, DE Cal
#48 Koa Misi, OLB UT
#53 Damien Williams, WR USC
#119 Dennis Pitta, TE BYU
#190 Anton Rolle, SS Fla St
#205 Zotan MESKO, P Mich
#229 Jaren Mustrud, TE KSU
#231 Brandon Deaderick, DE ALA
#247 Michael McLaughlin ILB, BC
248 Chirs Brown, RB Auburn
#250 Joe Hawky, C UNLV

I'll do my trades later.
 
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22 - Sean Weatherspoon ILB Missouri - I like his bravado because he backs it up. Nobody will be running on us up the middle! Every down LB who is great in pass coverage. We can get a good DT later!

44 - Tyson Alualu DT California - Very quick DE/DT that would be perfect for a 3-4 DE. 4.8x for a DT

47 - Trade to CIN for #54 and #120 CIN selects Jimmy Graham TE Miami

53 - Arrelious Benn WR Illinois - really bad QB affected his numbers this year. Big fast off the line, a bargain at this spot in the draft

54- Koa Misi LB Utah - a friend in Utah told me to watch this guy and the board has really taken a liking to him too! He is shooting up draft boards. Great combo of speed rush and can hold the edge too!

119 - Daniel Te O'Nesheim DE Washington - Someone called him a sleeper? He has been terrorizing Pac 10 QB's. We just don't get to see these players much. Great workouts and LB agility drills. (BTW I don't think he wil last this long)

110 - Trade #120 & 229 for Blair White WR Michigan St - Brian Hoyers old receiver
190 - Myron Rolle FS Florida St - You know BB likes hime because he is a Rhodes Scholar
205 - Michael Hoomanawanui TE Illinois - love the name and he is a big bad blocking TE
231 - Patrick Stoudamire CB Western Illinois
247 - Jameson Konz TE/FB/LB Kent St
248 - Deji Karim RB S Illinois
250 - Scott Sicko FB/TE UNH (listed as a FB at #338)
 
OK. I'll take a shot. This rule of being within 5 makes it fairly easy:

22 - Trade to Minnesota for 30 and 93.
30: Jerry Hughes - OLB
41: Demaryius Thomas - WR (Trade up 47 + 119 + 229)
44: Jahvid Best - RB
53 - Trade down with Cleveland for 71 and 92
71: Corey Wootton - DE
88: Dennis Pitta - TE (trade up 91 + 190)
93: Jason Worilds - OLB
205: Emanuel Sanders - WR
231:Vince Oghabaase
247: Deji Karim - RB
248: Brent Bowden - P
250: Scott Sicko - TE

edit - decided to take advantage of trade down in 1st and grab another OLB in the 3rd.
 
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Using the CBS rankings:
22. Dez Bryant, WR
44. Tyson Alualu, DT/DE
48. Carlos Dunlap, DE
53. Koa Misi, OLB

119. Daniel Te'o-nesheim, OLB
205. Michael Hoomanawanui, TE
229. Nolan Carrol, CB
231. Danario Alexander, WR
247. Jameson Konz, RB/FB
248. Kyle Williams, WR
250. Matt Dodge, P

I couldn't work in an OL, sadly. The Pats' OL should be ok with Light, Neal, Kaczur and Vollmer plus the depth they have for this year.
I tried to fill holes with impact players in the first 4 rounds.
 
54- Koa Misi LB Utah - a friend in Utah told me to watch this guy and the board has really taken a liking to him too! He is shooting up draft boards. Great combo of speed rush and can hold the edge too!

No, he can't at all which is why he is a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect. He needs to bulk up a lot and his lack of height/weight makes him a pretty bad fit for New England's system. He could make a productive situational passrusher, but IMO he won't become a starting caliber player for 2-3 years if ever. He doesn't anchor well and can get washed out in runs quite easily.
 
No, he can't at all which is why he is a late 2nd/early 3rd prospect. He needs to bulk up a lot and his lack of height/weight makes him a pretty bad fit for New England's system. He could make a productive situational passrusher, but IMO he won't become a starting caliber player for 2-3 years if ever. He doesn't anchor well and can get washed out in runs quite easily.

Also no one mocks and ridicules another persons picks until you have done yours to be mocked and ridiculed.

I used the terms mock and ridicule as humor. But debate or disagree should be added until we see what is being offered by the debator or disagreeor. :cool:
 
My trades (all according to draft value chart and draft order by team)

1. Patriots 48 for Titans 77, 97, 111, 148
2. Patriots 22, 148 for Bucs 35, 67, 153, 232
3. Patriots 44 for Vikings 62, 93, 128
4. Patriots 53, 119, 190, 205 for Browns 71, 92, 105
5. Patriots 71 for 49ers 79, 145
6. Patriots 93 to Saints for 95, 239
6. Patriots 97 for Seahawks 104, 176, 213
7. Patriots 128 for Lions 133, 214
8. Patriots 145 for Packers 154, 230
9. Patriots 176, 229 for Chargers 168
10. Patriots 213, 230, 250 for Texans 187
11. Patriots 231, 247 for Rams 208

So, the choices are:

35. Jared Odrick (from Bucs)
62. Ricky Sapp (from Vikings)
67. Joe Asamoah (from Bucs)
77. Brandon LaFell (from Titans)
79. Jimmy Graham (from 49ers)
92. Jacoby Ford (from Browns)
95. Eric Norwood (from Saints)
104. Aaron Hernandez (from Seahawks)
105. Brandon Spikes (from Browns)
111. Mardy Gilyard (from Titans)
133. Austen Lane (from Lions)
153. Jarrett Brown (from Bucs)
154. AJ Edds (from Packers)
168. Mitch Petrus (from Chargers)
187. George Selvie (from Texans)
208. LeGarrette Blount (from Rams)
214. Clifton Geathers
232. Freddie Barnes (from Bucs)
239. Sam Young (from Saints)
248. Patrick Stoudamire

Free agents? Joe Pawelek, Michael Hoomanawanui, Al Woods, Scott Sicko, Jeff Cottam, Abe Koroma, Reggie McClain

So, break down by offense/defense:

QB: Jarrett Brown
RB: LeGarrette Blount
TE: Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez
WR: Brandon LaFell, Jacoby Ford, Mardy Gilyard, Freddie Barnes
OL: Joe Asamoah, Mitch Petrus, Sam Young

DL: Jared Odrick, Clifton Geathers
DE/OLB: Austen Lane, George Selvie
OLB: Ricky Sapp, Eric Norwood
ILB: Brandon Spikes, AJ Edds
DB: Patrick Stoudamire

Yes, 20 draft picks.
My strategy: none of the scouts or front offices know what they're doing, so take a scattershot approach, and find 10 guys (yes 10 make the team) that are real football players.
 
My trades (all according to draft value chart and draft order by team)

1. Patriots 48 for Titans 77, 97, 111, 148
2. Patriots 22, 148 for Bucs 35, 67, 153, 232
3. Patriots 44 for Vikings 62, 93, 128
4. Patriots 53, 119, 190, 205 for Browns 71, 92, 105
5. Patriots 71 for 49ers 79, 145
6. Patriots 93 to Saints for 95, 239
6. Patriots 97 for Seahawks 104, 176, 213
7. Patriots 128 for Lions 133, 214
8. Patriots 145 for Packers 154, 230
9. Patriots 176, 229 for Chargers 168
10. Patriots 213, 230, 250 for Texans 187
11. Patriots 231, 247 for Rams 208

So, the choices are:

35. Jared Odrick (from Bucs)
62. Ricky Sapp (from Vikings)
67. Joe Asamoah (from Bucs)
77. Brandon LaFell (from Titans)
79. Jimmy Graham (from 49ers)
92. Jacoby Ford (from Browns)
95. Eric Norwood (from Saints)
104. Aaron Hernandez (from Seahawks)
105. Brandon Spikes (from Browns)
111. Mardy Gilyard (from Titans)
133. Austen Lane (from Lions)
153. Jarrett Brown (from Bucs)
154. AJ Edds (from Packers)
168. Mitch Petrus (from Chargers)
187. George Selvie (from Texans)
208. LeGarrette Blount (from Rams)
214. Clifton Geathers
232. Freddie Barnes (from Bucs)
239. Sam Young (from Saints)
248. Patrick Stoudamire

Free agents? Joe Pawelek, Michael Hoomanawanui, Al Woods, Scott Sicko, Jeff Cottam, Abe Koroma, Reggie McClain

So, break down by offense/defense:

QB: Jarrett Brown
RB: LeGarrette Blount
TE: Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez
WR: Brandon LaFell, Jacoby Ford, Mardy Gilyard, Freddie Barnes
OL: Joe Asamoah, Mitch Petrus, Sam Young

DL: Jared Odrick, Clifton Geathers
DE/OLB: Austen Lane, George Selvie
OLB: Ricky Sapp, Eric Norwood
ILB: Brandon Spikes, AJ Edds
DB: Patrick Stoudamire

Yes, 20 draft picks.
My strategy: none of the scouts or front offices know what they're doing, so take a scattershot approach, and find 10 guys (yes 10 make the team) that are real football players.

haha..i like it. I'd be content with that if you would find a spot for veldheer or a better tackle than sam young in there.
 
My trades (all according to draft value chart and draft order by team)

1. Patriots 48 for Titans 77, 97, 111, 148
2. Patriots 22, 148 for Bucs 35, 67, 153, 232
3. Patriots 44 for Vikings 62, 93, 128
4. Patriots 53, 119, 190, 205 for Browns 71, 92, 105
5. Patriots 71 for 49ers 79, 145
6. Patriots 93 to Saints for 95, 239
6. Patriots 97 for Seahawks 104, 176, 213
7. Patriots 128 for Lions 133, 214
8. Patriots 145 for Packers 154, 230
9. Patriots 176, 229 for Chargers 168
10. Patriots 213, 230, 250 for Texans 187
11. Patriots 231, 247 for Rams 208

So, the choices are:

35. Jared Odrick (from Bucs)
62. Ricky Sapp (from Vikings)
67. Joe Asamoah (from Bucs)
77. Brandon LaFell (from Titans)
79. Jimmy Graham (from 49ers)
92. Jacoby Ford (from Browns)
95. Eric Norwood (from Saints)
104. Aaron Hernandez (from Seahawks)
105. Brandon Spikes (from Browns)
111. Mardy Gilyard (from Titans)
133. Austen Lane (from Lions)
153. Jarrett Brown (from Bucs)
154. AJ Edds (from Packers)
168. Mitch Petrus (from Chargers)
187. George Selvie (from Texans)
208. LeGarrette Blount (from Rams)
214. Clifton Geathers
232. Freddie Barnes (from Bucs)
239. Sam Young (from Saints)
248. Patrick Stoudamire

Free agents? Joe Pawelek, Michael Hoomanawanui, Al Woods, Scott Sicko, Jeff Cottam, Abe Koroma, Reggie McClain

So, break down by offense/defense:

QB: Jarrett Brown
RB: LeGarrette Blount
TE: Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez
WR: Brandon LaFell, Jacoby Ford, Mardy Gilyard, Freddie Barnes
OL: Joe Asamoah, Mitch Petrus, Sam Young

DL: Jared Odrick, Clifton Geathers
DE/OLB: Austen Lane, George Selvie
OLB: Ricky Sapp, Eric Norwood
ILB: Brandon Spikes, AJ Edds
DB: Patrick Stoudamire

Yes, 20 draft picks.
My strategy: none of the scouts or front offices know what they're doing, so take a scattershot approach, and find 10 guys (yes 10 make the team) that are real football players.

I like this, upstater! Caserio better get working on the trades asap as he has lots of work to do!
 
Waiting for someone to step up, are ya?

#22 Sergio Kindle OLB TX
#44 Tyson Alualu, DE Cal
#48 Koa Misi, OLB UT
#53 Damien Williams, WR USC
#119 Dennis Pitta, TE BYU
#190 Anton Rolle, SS Fla St
#205 Zotan MESKO, P Mich
#229 Jaren Mustrud, TE KSU
#231 Brandon Deaderick, DE ALA
#247 Michael McLaughlin ILB, BC
248 Chirs Brown, RB Auburn Oklahoma
#250 Joe Hawky, C UNLV

I'll do my trades later.

Chris Brown, RB, Oklahoma (fixed)
 
Chris Brown, RB, Oklahoma (fixed)

he'd be a solid 3rd back for us, and is i think decent in blitz pickup. Solid all around back, ima huge sooner fan obviously but ive had the pleasure of watching him play consistently for the ou.
 
22 Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
Trade #44, #190, #229 with Eagles for #70, #87, #121, #127 (Pats = 477, Eagles = 486)
48 Tyson Aluala, DE, California
53 Arrellious Benn, WR, Illinois
70 Ben Tate, RB, Auburn
87 Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
119 Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, OLB, Washington
121 Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
127 Tony Moeaki, TE, Iowa
205* Mike Kafka, QB, Northwestern
231 Vince Oghobaase, DT/DE, Duke
247* Jameson Konz, FB, Kent State
248* Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech
250* Scott Long, WR, Louisville
 
22-Jared Odrick, DE, Penn St
44-Koa Misi, OLB, Utah
48-Dexter McCluster, RB/WR, Ole Miss
53-Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
119 & 231 traded to Ravens for 156 & 157

156-AJ Edds, LB, Iowa
157-AJ Jefferson, CB, Fresno St
190-Marcus Easley, WR, UConn
205-Clifton Geathers, DE, South Carolina
229-Nate Byham, TE, Pitt
247-Jeromy Miles, S, UMass
248-Brandon Minor, RB, Michigan
250-Scott Sicko, TE, UNH

couple of jareds and AJs to go along with a few local kids on day 3 and I'd say you have yourself a pretty good draft.
 
My trades (all according to draft value chart and draft order by team)

1. Patriots 48 for Titans 77, 97, 111, 148
2. Patriots 22, 148 for Bucs 35, 67, 153, 232
3. Patriots 44 for Vikings 62, 93, 128
4. Patriots 53, 119, 190, 205 for Browns 71, 92, 105
5. Patriots 71 for 49ers 79, 145
6. Patriots 93 to Saints for 95, 239
6. Patriots 97 for Seahawks 104, 176, 213
7. Patriots 128 for Lions 133, 214
8. Patriots 145 for Packers 154, 230
9. Patriots 176, 229 for Chargers 168
10. Patriots 213, 230, 250 for Texans 187
11. Patriots 231, 247 for Rams 208

So, the choices are:

35. Jared Odrick (from Bucs)
62. Ricky Sapp (from Vikings)
67. Joe Asamoah (from Bucs)
77. Brandon LaFell (from Titans)
79. Jimmy Graham (from 49ers)
92. Jacoby Ford (from Browns)
95. Eric Norwood (from Saints)
104. Aaron Hernandez (from Seahawks)
105. Brandon Spikes (from Browns)
111. Mardy Gilyard (from Titans)
133. Austen Lane (from Lions)
153. Jarrett Brown (from Bucs)
154. AJ Edds (from Packers)
168. Mitch Petrus (from Chargers)
187. George Selvie (from Texans)
208. LeGarrette Blount (from Rams)
214. Clifton Geathers
232. Freddie Barnes (from Bucs)
239. Sam Young (from Saints)
248. Patrick Stoudamire

Free agents? Joe Pawelek, Michael Hoomanawanui, Al Woods, Scott Sicko, Jeff Cottam, Abe Koroma, Reggie McClain

So, break down by offense/defense:

QB: Jarrett Brown
RB: LeGarrette Blount
TE: Jimmy Graham, Aaron Hernandez
WR: Brandon LaFell, Jacoby Ford, Mardy Gilyard, Freddie Barnes
OL: Joe Asamoah, Mitch Petrus, Sam Young

DL: Jared Odrick, Clifton Geathers
DE/OLB: Austen Lane, George Selvie
OLB: Ricky Sapp, Eric Norwood
ILB: Brandon Spikes, AJ Edds
DB: Patrick Stoudamire

Yes, 20 draft picks.
My strategy: none of the scouts or front offices know what they're doing, so take a scattershot approach, and find 10 guys (yes 10 make the team) that are real football players.

WOW! 20 picks and 7 UDFAs. That's 1/3rd of your 80 man roster right there. How many do the Pats have under contract right now?

Oh, by the way, 27 rookies and you still don't have a Punter! ;)
 
Here is my stab at it:

With Trades:

TRADE (#22 & #53) to 49rs for (#17 & 79) Trade value 1150 - 1145

#17 - Rolando McClain
- Another stud young LB to play with Mayo, Guyton and Mckenzie for the next few years. I have loved this kid for us since the start and I am not going to change my mind. The more I hear him slipping the better I feel about us getting him.

Trade (#44 & 119) to the Packers for (#56 & 86 & 193) Trade value 516 - 514

# 47 - Charles Brown (OT) - To get a first round talent this deep in the second is a no brainer. He played in a big time program has great measurables and would improve our OL with a big time player.

#53 - Damian Williams (WR) - Yes back to back USC players but this guy is a great route runner and some WR in the class can barely run the tree. This is a good character guy who fills a need but needs to run faster.

#56 - Chris Cook (CB/FS) - Like Sean Smith last year to add a great DB who can play both positions is valuable. The guy is a play maker and I bet Al Davis will trade for him in a few years if he does not work out:D

#79 - Tyson Alualu (DE) - I love this guy in the second round for us to address the DE position. He will be a great player who has played 3-4 Defensive End in college.

# 86 - Jimmy Graham (TE) - We have our blocking TE I think this guy might just surprise some people. I know Gates is a rare exception but this guy does have the measurable and at the bottom of the third worth the risk and fills a need.

#190 - Jeff Byers (interior OL) - If this guy can stay healthy would be a great addition to our OL.

#193 - Blair White (WR) - This guys is pro ready and will push guys for that #3 WR spot.

#205 - Brandon Deaderick (DE) - player who had to deal with an unusual injury but worth a pick a this spot.

#229 - Eric Olsen (C) - Another quality OL late in the draft to push Koppen and make his trade or loss not hurt too bad.

#231 - Deji Karim- Yes I finally address the RB position with a steel here in the seventh, thanks Eagles.

#247 - Matt Dodge (P) - 45 yard + average.....where does he sign.

#248 Sam Young (OT) - I cannot believe this guy will be here in the seventh but I will take him as he impressed me in Mobile.

#250 E.J. Wilson (3-4 DE) - Another guy to push Warren for LE down the road.

Without Trades I would go this way:

#22 - Jermaine Gresham, TE
#44 - Sergio Kindle, OLB
#47 - Charles Brown, OT
#53 - Damian Williams, WR
# 119 - Arthur Jones, DE
# 190 - Jeff Byers, C - G
# 205 - Brandon Deaderick , DE
#229 - Eric Olsen, C
#231 - Deji Karim, RB
#247 - Matt Dodge, P
#248 - Sam Young, OT
#250 - E.J. Wilson, DE
 
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I would probably go with:

Trade 44, 47, and 53 (=1260) to Tennessee for 16, 77, and 111 (=1277)

16. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
22. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
77. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
111. Greg Hardy, DE/OLB, Mississippi
119. Arthur Jones, 3-4 DE, Syracuse
190. Marcus Easley, WR, Connecticut
205. LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon
229. Denario Alexander, WR, Missouri
231. Vince Oghobaase, 3-4 DE, Duke
247. Jameson Konz, FB/TE, Kent St
248. Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech
250. Scott Sicko, TE, New Hampshire
 
I would probably go with:

Trade 44, 47, and 53 (=1260) to Tennessee for 16, 77, and 111 (=1277)

16. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
22. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
77. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
111. Greg Hardy, DE/OLB, Mississippi
119. Arthur Jones, 3-4 DE, Syracuse
190. Marcus Easley, WR, Connecticut
205. LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon
229. Denario Alexander, WR, Missouri
231. Vince Oghobaase, 3-4 DE, Duke
247. Jameson Konz, FB/TE, Kent St
248. Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech
250. Scott Sicko, TE, New Hampshire

very nice except i would find sumone else in the hardy spot, i.e.- pitta, moeki
 
I would probably go with:

Trade 44, 47, and 53 (=1260) to Tennessee for 16, 77, and 111 (=1277)

16. Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
22. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
77. Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
111. Greg Hardy, DE/OLB, Mississippi
119. Arthur Jones, 3-4 DE, Syracuse
190. Marcus Easley, WR, Connecticut
205. LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon
229. Denario Alexander, WR, Missouri
231. Vince Oghobaase, 3-4 DE, Duke
247. Jameson Konz, FB/TE, Kent St
248. Brent Bowden, P, Virginia Tech
250. Scott Sicko, TE, New Hampshire
Thats probably the best Pats mock I've seen on this board. Although I doubt they would draft another ILB that high and not even give McKenzie a chance.
 
Trades:
#22, 2011 #1(higher pick) and Brace(Pryor and Wilfork make him obsolete)or Mankins(wont be resigned next year anyways) for #2. Raiders #1 in '11 wont be nearly so high with Donovan McNabb starting.....dump it!
#44 and #116 for #39
#53 for #62 and #126 and #158
#62 for #78 and #110
#110 and #126 for #91
Ending up with 2,39, 47,62,78,91,158, 180,213,253,254,255,256
Assuming we pick up a WR in FA. Light LG, Vollmer to LT.

#2-DE-Suh replaces Seymour-playmaker
#39-TE-Gresham-Best TE available
#47-OLB-Sapp-Replaces a cut Thomas
#78-DE/OLB-Cunningham-the real glue of the FL D--my binkie
#91-OT-Fox-the first med red shirt, bargain here
#158-OLB-Schofield-2nd med red shirt-was leading the country in tackles for loss--my namesake too!
#180-SS-Rolle-sell him on the Boston Med Schools
#213-DE-Gaither-6'8 project
#253-CB-Hawkins
#254-C-Cook
#255-OLB-Davis
#256-TE-Konz-everyone likes him,lol

The Lions are said to be coveting a all-pro G, why not throw Mankins in there to get the trade done? No way do we spend the $$ for that position, franchising is still too $$ as the pay for good guards has gone up faster than their importance in the offense. We basically traded Hobbs for Ornburger last draft so Dante should have him up to back up/take over for Neal soon. I think the team likes Light and he would take a pay cut to move inside and end his career here, he cant play RT. If the McNabb trade goes down we will lose likely half the value on the pick, why not max it out this year in a rare chance to get a impact DL?
Next year we will pick up a RB and have a better idea of the development of Tate and Edleman, Moss' future, and Welker's effectiveness...but our lines will be solid as well as LBs and DBs.
 
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