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    Pick 3 Players league wide (including the Pats) who you think will have the biggest improvement off thier 2009 NFL campaign and 3 Players you think will have a lesser productive year compared to last season.

    Obviously no rookies will count in this discussion....

    Improving players >

    Adrian Peterson - Had fumblelitis last season and showed a decline from his rookie season but he has been working hard to fix his problem and I think he will be stronger and faster this year more like 2008 than 2009.

    Darius Butler - I think this kid is going to be an all-pro in a very short time,while he was not a major factor on the defense last season he did show flashes of brilliance,I believe he will play a bigger role on defense this year and I expect a superb season from him.

    Donovan McNabb - I really think this is the right team and at the right time in his career for McNabb to show he can still play the game at a top level and I expect him to have a special year and stick it to the ungrateful Eagles organization who chose to go elsewhere with thier QB.


    Players on the decline >

    Chris Johnson - A logical choice considering he had over 2,000 yards last year...I don't expect a significant drop but I don't see anyhere near another year like he had - Its hard to come near what he did on a mediocre team last season

    Drew Brees - An Elite quarterback still,but it seems that SB champion QBs have a lesser year the following season and struggle a bit more,so I am guessing that this trend won't change.

    Larry Fitzgerald - I still love this guy but IMO its a big dropoff from Warner to Leinhart and I think this will have a big effect on the Cards offense and in particular the remaining force of thier receiving corps
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    Going Up:
    Matt Ryan - Coming off a poor injury-riddled year. Will be better this year.
    Sebastian Vollmer - Going to be a stud Tackle. Will establish himself as a beast and a force in Passing and Rushing.
    Felix Jones - Should get the chance to start and will perform well in the Dallas Offense especially off the very delayed Draw plays.

    Going Down:
    Drew Brees - Madden Curse. Simples ;)
    D'Brick - Without Faneca holding his hand and Mangold now pissed, he'll be on an island.
    Ray Lewis - Gotta happen at some point.
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    Up: Matthew Stafford, Jerod Mayo, Brandon Flowers

    Down: Derrick Mason, Ricky Williams, Darren Sharper
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    Up: Matt Leinart, Calvin Johnson, Kevin Kolb
    Down: Brian Cushing, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Cedric Benson
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    On the up.

    1) Sanchez
    2) Greene
    3) Edwards

    Headed down.

    1) Brady
    2) Moss
    3) Welker

    Flame away but the truth is, it's probably all accurate. :cool:
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    Improving players

    #1 Joe Flacco, with all the WR's and RB's and that great OL he should have a big year like 4000 yards and all most 30 TD's


    #2 Richard Seymour, only had 4 sacks last year but i hear oakland is moveing to a 1 gap 3-4 he should have a big year.


    #3 Austin Collie, he had all most 700 yards and 7 TD's last year as a rookie and think he will be a 1000 yard WR in 2010.


    Players on the decline


    #1 Chris Johnson, no way he runs for 2000 yards again


    #2 wes welker, only because he will miss the first 5 games or so.. i just can't see him haveing a 100 rec season.


    #3 Hines Ward, he is 34 years old and he's QB will miss at less the first 4 games of the season.
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    well i guess your half right... the 1st 3 have no where to go but up so i guess you could add gholston to that list to hey.

    Interesting that if you were being honest with yourself you would trade your 3 for our 3 in a second isn't it
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    GOOD:

    1. J.Flacco - the weapons the Ravens have added will really help him out.

    2. M. Turner - hopefully he won't have injuries again, and show the hard runner he is from 2008.

    3. A. Peterson - if he stops the fumbles, he will be as dangerous as he should be.

    BAD:

    1. M.Austin - no-one really knew who he was last season, and this season the coverage will be on him.

    2. C.Johnson - as said before, if he betters last season WOW!

    3. P.Manning - Superbowl losers and all that :)
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    Improve: Matt Ryan, Mike Wallace, Shonn Greene
    Decline: Chris Johnson, Thomas Jones, Jason Campbell
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    Well Sanchez couldn't get much worse than he played last year. So that is a safe bet. He might only throw 19 INTs this season.
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    Improve:
    Joe Flacco--more weapons, teams focusing on Ray Rice.

    LeSean McCoy--He'll be the top back in Philly now.

    Jay Cutler--Can he get any worse than last year?


    Decline:
    Peyton Manning--I just want this to be true ;)

    Larry Fitzgerald--Going to be difficult to put up the numbers we are used to seeing with Leinart and/or Derek Andeson throwing him the ball.

    Maurice Jones-Drew--The only player you have to scheme for on that team, how long can he keep it up?
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    Retarded troll is retarded.
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    Improve:
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Darius Butler
    Antonio Cromartie
    Shawne Merriman
    Vontae Davis & Sean Smith
    Jerod Mayo
    Jay Cutler
    Dwayne Bowe

    Decline:
    Matt Schaub
    Thomas Jones
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Brett Favre
    Stephen Jackson
    Steve Smith NYG
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    Strongly disagree. The Redskins are terrible. McNabb is better than Campbell, but hes not going to make their Receivers, Runningbacks, and Line suddenly not suck.
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    #51 Jersey

    Improve:
    Tom Brady
    Devin Hester
    Matt Stafford

    Decline:
    Ray Lewis
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Drew Brees (Madden curse :p)
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    I'll just do receivers

    Up
    Michael Crabtree
    Julian Edelman
    Kenny Britt

    Down
    Santonio Holmes
    Jerricho Cotchery
    Hines Ward
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    On the rise

    (1) Jamal Charles

    (2) Tory Holt

    (3) Chad Henne




    On the declne

    (1) Tomlinson

    (2) "The Appointment" (Sanchez)

    (3) Cromartie and his 10 kids
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    Kids - this is why cousins should never marry.
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    Mike Sims-Walker says hi :p
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    He might have a poorer year this year, as teams will know of his impact.
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    Forgot about him. :bricks:
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    I think most players on Jags team get forgotten about ;)

    I could probably name only about 4 or 5 :)
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    Disable Jersey

    I was originally going to parody a R*A*T*S fan with

    Up:
    LdT
    Gholston
    Richardson

    But your way really exposes the silliness of that fan base better than mine would have.
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    I have to agree. It seems as if Brady's head is into fashion shows and FiFi dogs these days (and kids of course). You can hardly blame him considering who puts her slippers under his bed each night.

    I love Randy Moss but playing on green concrete with bad knees is not conducive to an extended career. Let's hope that the new green concrete is better than the old green concrete but I don't hold out much hope after what the Giants players said about DuraSpine. The surface was so hard last year that 2-3 player were knocked out when their heads hit the "ground" in the last game last season. Frozen plastic.

    Just like they did with Mayo and so many other players Welker will be brought back too soon from his injury. Then he will be overused in a predictable way as he was last year. The defensive game plan against him was to injure him and I see more of the same this year unless the Patriots get more creative. Maybe Hernandez and Gronk will help. I don't hold out a lot of hope for Tate (might get cut).
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    Interesting.

    So you disagree?

    Brady's stats will improve?

    Moss' as well?

    Welker's?

    Sanchez will regress?

    Greene won't have more yards and TD's?

    Edwards too?

    lol
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    Improved:

    1. Maroney. Mankins or not, I'm predicting a breakout year if he stays healthy and doesn't get fumbilitis, which seems to set his confidence back quite a bit.

    2. Jason Campbell. He has the tools, and has the deamenor. Calm under pressure for being a young player. Was asked to adjust to new offensive schemes too many times as a young player. Will step up as a leader in Oakland bigtime.

    3. Pierre Garcon. Colts found the pefect player here to plug in at the #2. Just needs to be solid, not spectacular.

    In decline:

    1. Ldt. Obvious. Might contribute in the third down passing game but is probably done as a runner.

    2. Matt Cassell. (Yes--already). He needs weapons (and an o-line) around him to be successful. Downright mediocre last year. Pioli will be patient with him, but that team will need a lot of luck to re-build anytime soon.

    3. Randy Moss. Loses battles with elite corners now. Back/shoulder are a concern for a guy who's bread and butter has been leaping and being an athletic freak.
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    #12 Jersey

    You're right! All three of the Jets that you mentioned *might* manage to be league-average starters by the end of the season! Probably not, but anything's possible!

    Seriously, who let the Jets fan out of his cage? He's filling the board with stupid again.
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    Jesus, some of you are intolerable.

    I didn't come here, mention spygate repeatedly and p!ss in your cheerios.

    This board is insufferable with all the ball licking between the lot of you.

    As a fan that enjoys reading about other teams, I decided I'd interject occasionally.

    But please, continue to drive site traffic down. There's a reason Jets Insider absolutely crushes this site in traffic ratings :rolleyes:
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    Really tough to leave some guys off the rising list that were already mentioned but I gotta go with Henne, Leinart and Cutler.

    Decline: Reggie Wayne, Eli Manning, Cedric Benson
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    #12 Jersey

    If it's so bad, then stop posting here. I promise we won't miss you ;)

    BTW, interesting definition of "absolutely crushes" that you have. Not sure how site traffic is relevant to anything, but eh, since you brought it up:

    http://siteanalytics.compete.com/jetsinsider.com patsfans.com/

    Instant classic: look at the top search terms for jetsinsider.com:

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